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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #15 on: 14 May 2017, 12:01:30 »
Thanks for the feedback, what should I install from Wine? Wine and Wine Bottler? Because when I install just Wine, I do not see any config or setup options as you suggest and resize isn't working with running the app AMIGA SWOS that is provided.

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #16 on: 14 May 2017, 12:05:15 »
Thanks for the feedback, what should I install from Wine? Wine and Wine Bottler? Because when I install just Wine, I do not see any config or setup options as you suggest and resize isn't working with running the app AMIGA SWOS that is provided.

http://winebottler.kronenberg.org Here you are!

https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-mac/download (Costy alternative, works as well)

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #17 on: 16 May 2017, 21:07:39 »
Well I installed both the Wine Bottler as Wine, and then ran the downloaded Mac app from the tutorial on Sensiblesoccer.de but nothing changer on my Mac with OSX 10.7.5 . Still all the same problems, no resizable windows, after resize Sensi just freezes. Should it have improved? Or do you mean that I should install Wine, and somehow figure out how this strange program works and then download the other Windows app to be run in Wine? It's really not clear to me what you mean by 'configure / setup Wine' , what settings should be changed? Since it looks like there are a lot of options, some of wich I probably do not need.

I can imagine it is easier for the Mac to use Wine, since you then only had to make the Windows SWOS 16/17 app. Or is there also a verion I could use in FS-UAE? Since I have that one running perfectly and in fullscreen on my Mac.

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #18 on: 18 May 2017, 16:27:21 »
It's optimized for OS X 10.12.x  (Sierra)!

Winebottler should be very easy to use. The only option which is sort of "experimental" is the DirectX one... Try with, or without!
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FS-UAE? http://www.amigalive.com
Download the Mac bundle and enjoy! Check 2nd screenshot...
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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #19 on: 22 June 2017, 22:27:05 »
First of all thanks Playaveli for setting up my ASWOS for Mac today in Wine. Now that I know I can ONLY use the fixed resolution of 672 x 544 (older Macbook with just a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo and 3 GB of RAM, OSX 10.7.5), the native app that is posted here now also works, and better than the Wine version on 50 FPS, and the Wine version you installed is now stuck at 42 FPS. Just these problems are remaining:

- In the native app I cannot switch between 96/97 and 16/17, the first choice I made when starting the game remains the setting even if I switch afterwards. So now I just have to versions running, the native is stuck on 16/17.
- For the Wine version I experimented with lots of different lower resolutions, and somehow I could resize the fixed window on my second screen. Could this have corrupted this version? Since it now always switches to 'Properties of WINUAE' and the Display tab with these settings: 672 x 544, Centering: horizontal and vertical checked, Line Mode: Doubled, Refresh: Every Frame, other checkboxes are unchecked. And now the game seems to be stuck at 42 FPS and is not playable. Please not that this version is stuck on 96/96 and I cannot switch to the 16/17 version, at least in offline mode.

So if the problem with the selection on the native MAC app is fixed, I won't need the Wine version anymore. And these problems can be discarded. Since I now am missing the option to switch between the 96/97 and the 16/17 game on my Mac, in offline mode.

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #20 on: 22 June 2017, 22:55:43 »
There is no "native" app... it's the same process like I did on your computer! What you can download here is also done with wine bottler!

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #21 on: 23 June 2017, 09:19:46 »
Ok, so the best thing to do for me now is to remove Amiga SWOS that is installed and re-install it in Wine Bottler as you did yesterday? And just stick to the fixed window to make sure I get 50fps. And also try it with or without the Direct X. Because on my OSX 10.7.5 (Lion) it seems resize always goes haywire ;-).

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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #22 on: 23 June 2017, 12:26:52 »
Ok, so the best thing to do for me now is to remove Amiga SWOS that is installed and re-install it in Wine Bottler as you did yesterday? And just stick to the fixed window to make sure I get 50fps. And also try it with or without the Direct X. Because on my OSX 10.7.5 (Lion) it seems resize always goes haywire ;-).

Correct!

And if you have problems with version-switch, then just install two of them... one with 96/97, one with 16/17 chosen on first time! :)
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Re: [MAC OSX - TUTORIAL] AMIGA - SWOS 96/97 & 16/17
« Reply #23 on: 23 June 2017, 18:28:20 »
Thanks, I finally have tested the mac version of Amiga SWOS. I now understand what the Wine Bottler does, wrapping the file in a Windows Emulator (Wine) with certain preconfigured settings (as you show in the screenshot on this forum). In the end, it just looks like my old white Macbook (3GB memory, 2.7Ghz Core 2 Duo) is just too old to run a Amiga emulator whitin a Windows emulator and do online play. It then gets stuck at 40 FPS.

Offline play works fine at 50FPS, the 96/97 to 16/17 switch works again and I can use the savedisk if I like to discover some of the 16/17 teams used for online play. Then I just use the default fixed window 672 x 544, hide the dock, and switch my resolution to 1024x640 ;-). On my mac the resizing doesn't work, if I use the default it works like a charm.

So all in all, I will just use PC for online play ;-) until I have the time to set up a multiboot with Windows on my Mac, that might still work. Then I just kinda figure I do need to have an ehternet connection or real fast wifi to get it to work.
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