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Title: 2018 application topic
Post by: ElMichaJ on 26 September 2017, 13:03:55
Hello Mates....

After Sensidays is before Sensidays  ... so lets talk about new applications for the next year 2018 !

This topic is for catching ideas and wishes ... official topic will follow :)


after 2013 i thought i can manage 2018 für Sensidays 15 .... but this year its to hard for me ... maybe for number 16 then.

Bulgaria and Denmark i have noticed in talks on Sensidays ... but well, maybe there is some surprise ? :)


http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/forum/index.php?topic=19233.0
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: wezza13 on 26 September 2017, 16:36:35
I reckon the UK has got to be the best choice! ;)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 26 September 2017, 16:46:09
http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/forum/index.php?topic=19233.0

for minimum requirements read this topic :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 26 September 2017, 16:59:39
If it is needed (and no one else make a serious bid) I can talk to the guys from [connected] if we could use their location. They always was very friendly and welcoming new guest. A hotel is directly next door. Only I am not experienced enough to host this, so this is only about the location and we would need a hosting team (sure I would help out as a link between [connection] guys and the sensibledays team, and would be on the location on the weekend).
Location would be near Hamburg, Germany.

This is only menat to be as plan B or plan C, if nothing else work. So if there is one or another serious bid, just make it there :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: djowger on 27 September 2017, 14:16:05
@HairFU: If the location is the same as when I visited Connected, I think it is good enough. At least the game room was big enough to host an event like Days. But you should probably look into general pricing adding the stay at the hotel (possible group discount), foods and drinks, rent of the location for the weekend etc. Hardware wise Germany and close to Denmark is a no-brainer. We have all that is needed.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 27 September 2017, 17:28:02
Yes, it's the same location we used back in 2016, when we play the SWOS [connected] cup. From what I know the city of Uetersen, where the location is, only gives the location to persons who live in the city. So I need to ask the [connected] if they are interested in presenting the Sensible Days under their banner and so they could organise the location. From what I know, they are very open minded when it comes to partnerships in retro event and they have said immediately yes, when I ask to make a new SWOS tournament on one of their events.
On 2nd of December is the next [connected] meeting and I am planing to go there. So I think it is a good time frame to know if someone is interested in to make a serious bid for sensible days or not. If not I will ask if it is possible to make it on the [connected] location and if yes, I would calculate everything else out. At least it would be possible to sleep on the location. So that would be very oldschool and not the highest standard, but that would be only a emergency plan if nothing else work out.

So keep in mind, that Sensible Days on [connected] location should be only plan B or plan C if nothing else work out and we don’t have any serious alternate plans, as I have to ask and can't control it on my own. Other solution, I could have a look at my home town if something is possible to rent, but first I would wait until december.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 03 October 2017, 20:34:29
Hi! How about bringing the tournament to Rotterdam in The Netherlands? I'm a volunteer at WORM, a club that organizes all kinds of stuff, varying from concerts and movie nights to workshops and performances, and Sensible Days could really fit well there... We have a big movie room where we can project the games as well, with an option to get rid of the theatre as well if we need space for the computers. There's a bar down stairs where there's also plenty of space for computers + opportunities to use a beamer... check out some of the pictures on google: https://www.google.nl/search?q=worm+rotterdam&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjivvbRitXWAhVLEVAKHYn1CjoQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=949#imgrc=8XwmP9tDdjh7OM:

or check out their website so you can see what kind of events they organize: www.worm.org

Furthermore, there are plenty of Amiga-guys walking around, or at least people with an interest in retro-gaming... also a lot of technical support... and although I'm not a professional Sensi-player, I'm completely addicted to the game and will be happy to help with the organization... Plenty of things to arrange of course, but first thing to know: is Rotterdam an option for you?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: dior on 03 October 2017, 22:12:29
One thing I can say this place does looks awsome.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 03 October 2017, 23:05:29
It is!  :)

When should the Sensible Days 2018 take place? And, are there more Dutch Sensi-players on this forum that are interested in bringing the tournament here?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 04 October 2017, 09:56:05
well it looks very interesting. but we need also an experienced tournament admin crew at that place.

it depends on that we have enough locals for organizing stuff, which want to manage it.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 04 October 2017, 13:01:29
Rotterdam is fifteen minutes from my house, so I'm local :).
Organization woudn't be a problem. Equipment likewise.
It all depends on if it can accomodate +- 50 people from Friday afternoon - Monday morning,
with beds / showers / meals for about 120 euros per person.
Oh, and if we can sing the Schultenbrau song until 3 in the morning :D.

If so, this is a very good possibility. It's in the middle of Rotterdam and the bars in the vicinity are great!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: djowger on 04 October 2017, 19:18:32
Rotterdam looks very interesting. Nice rooms and atmosphere, but year what about food/sleeping nearby?

But another thing. Why is 120 euro supposed to be a standard now? Denmark is f***ing expensive but we tried to do everything in our power to make it as cheap as possible, to hopefully attract more people. Our prices were from 75 euro (like fulda) - 100 euro. Almelo, Budapest and even Poland it was 120 euros. Is it only me noticing this? Surely the money was well spent, but I hope Sensible Days will never be a money making machine....
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 04 October 2017, 19:47:16
Good input, guys! Rotterdam seems a cool place. If the Rock is involved, I'd have no concerns... ;)
About the 120 Euros.... it's not a "standard", more a "maximum" I think. You maybe got this wrong, Poul.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 04 October 2017, 21:27:54
Great to hear of the interest, and that there are Dutch people around to help as well, Rock 'n Roll!! OK; the beds might be a problem for 50 people, but i will ask around in the next week what possibilities there are...
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 04 October 2017, 23:15:25
If Rotterdam is serious meant to be as a serious plan, I am out with [connected] location.
Of course if Roterdam doesen't work out until December, I am still offer to ask the [connected] guys :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 04 October 2017, 23:18:02
@HairFU:
Can you offer 2-3 overnights with 8 meals in total for max. 120 Euro in Hamburg, near that [connected] location?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 04 October 2017, 23:29:34
There is a Hotel next door at the location of [connected] if I can make an agreement with them, maybe.
As I said before this is only meant to be as an emergency plan. No serious bid at the moment. The idea of having Sensible Days at [connected] location is only the case if there is nothing left and it is the last chance to have Sensible Days in 2018. So if there is a minimum of a chance to make the Sensible Days anywhere else then make it there.
If the chances are very low to make it anywhere else until December, then ask me and I will look what I can do :) But before you ask me, try to make it in Rotterdam or anywhere else if there are serious ideas. If there are not serious ideas left in December, ask me and then I will ask [connected] guys (and they have to decide). But from what I know and what players of [connected] cup 2016 (for example Djowger, ElMichaJ, Bomb, Heinair, Itchy...) have seen, [connected] location should be big enough to make it as a gaming location :)
What I can offer for sure (if I am allowed to use the [connected] location - what I have to find out), I can offer a Room for free where you can sleep with air bed or camping bed. I know that is not what we need for Sensible Days. But if this ist the last chance to have Sensible Days in 2018 I could offer that. From what I know location would not be that expensive. So money for that would be nothing to worry about (I think so).
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 13 October 2017, 06:56:06
Allright! We've found an affordable place to stay for 50-80 people! It's a place in the city centre of Rotterdam, less than 2km from WORM: Hostel Mafkees. It's close to the new Eurotrash Brewery, which is also a recommended visit!  Price to be discussed, but it was pretty cheap + breakfast included... Next, I will go indepth with the people from WORM...

@Rock and Roll -> is it possible to meet up sometime soon to discuss the possible Sensible Days in Rotterdam?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 13 October 2017, 11:17:55
Hi sure, just give me a shout when!
Sending PM now :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: romanista on 23 October 2017, 12:50:18
We're speakiing with sabastosh november 3rd, will then update
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 08 November 2017, 23:46:51
Are there any news about Sensible Days in Rotterdam or anywhere else?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 09 November 2017, 11:37:04
well yes :) what about serbia, bulgaria, denmark, poland or italy ;) ?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 09 November 2017, 20:39:46
yesss, we had a great meeting with the Sensi guys last week; now I'm meeting up with the head honchos of WORM beginning next week, to see if there are no problems for them... we'll keep you posted!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 10 November 2017, 10:15:38
Exactly,

If there are other options / bids, then please just press on with preparing your bid book.
We will do the same. Our bid is a bit different than previous editions.
At the moment we don't know if we can organize the bid within the allocated budget, which
we'll hear next week. As soon as we know more we will post here.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 15 November 2017, 14:15:44
" It's a place in the city centre of Rotterdam, less than 2km from WORM: Hostel Mafkees. It's close to the new Eurotrash Brewery, which is also a recommended visit!  Price to be discussed, but it was pretty cheap + breakfast included... "

This dosent sound good to me. Sleeping and playing place need to be at the same address, imo. Has to be a possibility to take a nap og a rest in the bed during the tournament. 2 km from playning place to your bed is totally off for me. And all food need to be included. Just my opnion.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 15 November 2017, 15:59:03
yep klaris, thats also my biggest concern...

sleeping playing eating must be maximum 5 mins away ... else it gets worse...

i dont care about hip places if i cant hop off for some minutes
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 15 November 2017, 18:25:21
So just 2,5 weeks and [connected] event starts. I need just one signal (so someone of the official sensiblesoccer.de guys talk to me, before 1st of december, otherwise it is to late) and I will ask [connected] people. But for me Rotterdam looks nice (but I think people have to decide here what they preffer).
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 15 November 2017, 18:33:15
@HairFu: Please ask, and see if you can get this done from Fr-Mon for approx. 120 €, 8 meals included!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 15 November 2017, 18:47:30
If I get the OK from [connected] guys and we can make it in summer I will look for Hotelprices.
In the meaning time try to organize it in Rotterdamm (or anywhere else). Last year it took some time (until february) to know dates for this years [connected] events.

Edit: I just checked their regular prices on the webpage -> http://www.parkhotel-rosarium.de/en/hotel/room_rates.html
I think if we can't get a special price it will be expensive.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 15 November 2017, 19:35:51
ok, bad news for SensiDays in Rotterdam; I had a meeting with the people from WORM yesterday and the hospitality things were too difficult to organize...

It was worth a try, I think we had a good and affordable plan, but unfortunately the 3-day event cannot take place there. It's the perfect place nonetheless, and we're sure to find a way to play Sensi there in the near future... Will keep you posted about that!

I hope that the other possibilities will work out, and look forward to visit the SensiDays in 2018!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 15 November 2017, 20:12:15
Hey, Sebatosh, thanks for your efforts anyway! It's much appreciated.
I hope you can play some local/regional tournament in Rotterdam, nevertheless!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Sebatosh on 15 November 2017, 22:36:08
yeahhh, working on it with the Dutch Sensi guys!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: romanista on 16 November 2017, 13:02:37
Yes, after the first 'Dutch Open' in 2006, we're trying to make a new one.. Sebatosh invited us and we were enthusiastic about the possibilities.. bleachers, big screens, good beer, central... but we saw the drawbacks as well... so a one day tournament would be a good start..
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: andib on 16 November 2017, 16:46:12
Some weeks ago I talked to Klaris about our plans for hosting Sensi Days 2018 and we decided that we have to wait a year. Klaris just moved and I have to do the same in primo/medio 2018. If we should be able to do it for €120 we also have to book the place almost a year before the tournament.

We are sorry guys.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: transylvanicus on 23 November 2017, 17:16:48
Hey there, Sensible people! I have read all 3 pages about Sensi Days 2018 and, as far as I see, there is just a conclusion: it won't take place in Rotterdam, nor in Hamburg. Do you have an idea which remains the most probable host location for next year? Or which are the most likely locations?  ;D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: djowger on 06 December 2017, 23:49:09
Any other ideas for next year's sensi days?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 December 2017, 08:14:59
i would like to organize ... but this year my family is growing and there will be no time for administrating anything.

maybe eifel crew :D ? poland, denmark ? ^^ milano ? spain ? Portugal ? Bulgaria ? :D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 December 2017, 10:31:00
hairfu ? what about the connected ? is it possible ?

this year it looks hard to find an organizing team
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: HairFU on 11 December 2017, 20:33:16
@ElMichaJ
I had to cancel [connected] this december, as my grandmother have died one day before. For sure I could ask the [connected] guys anyway if wished, but the sensible days would be more like [connected] cup 2016 and not like the other Sensible Days if it comes to standards (sleeping for example).
I allready had some emergency plan talking to Playaveli with different plan. Write to me on discord chat and I can tell you.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: AndYpsilon on 12 December 2017, 07:49:03
i would like to organize ... but this year my family is growing and there will be no time for administrating anything.
maybe eifel crew :D

Don't think so. We're already doing an international cup for 16 - 25 players once year ;) It would be nice to have at least one
other bigger SWOS tournament anywhere else :D

Even more important, we already spoke about it to maybe do it one day. But at the moment we have no option for a location for 120 Euro with 6-8 meals and 3 overnight stays.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: djowger on 12 December 2017, 16:58:40
Pirmasens or Fulda? :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 13 December 2017, 10:38:30
Guys: if it's needed I'll help with the organization wherever Sensi Days will be held.
I don't need to play in the tournaments, I'll get my games in the friendlies :).
We're finally settling in to our new home, though it'll be a few more months until I have
a cabled pc to play swos again :).

Problem with Holland is just the money. Rotterdam would have been great (and we're going
to hold a tournament there  sometime next year), but sleeping places are just way too expensive.
Almelo/Bornerbroek was affordable (thanks to Mark's mum), but I don't think it's a viable option
for 2018. Maybe we could find somewhere else (though I haven't a clue where) but the location
would always, like Almelo, be the middle of nowhere. That has major logistical problems.
In Holland a hotel-ish enivronment with good accessibility etc, with the Sensi Days requirements
would mean a price tag of 200-250 euros. A.k.a. not suitable for Sensi Days and not even suitable
as a backup plan.

We could always ask around if necessary, but it would be nowhere near ideal.
Is somewhere in Germany still a possibility? Seems unlikely.
Seeing as Denmark is ruled out, probably Eastern Europe again.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 19 December 2017, 23:50:16
Could  Billund (same place as last time) 20-23 july be a possibility? Think Denmark Can hold it if location and date Can be accepted?
Days must Go on Klaris
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: AndYpsilon on 20 December 2017, 07:42:04
Yes!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 20 December 2017, 09:08:21
for me its a great idea :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 20 December 2017, 09:42:17
Yes!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 20 December 2017, 10:42:31
Great respons from 3 legends :-). Have talked to Grenelejren (the camp), and we have green light for renting the house these days, and to a very fine price. Know the bedrooms isnt for 2 persons, but big bedrooms create a special smelly SWOS athmosphere :-)..
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 20 December 2017, 12:59:15
Sweet :). I'd probably come with Rosefire so keep the exhaust fumes to a minimum guys :P
Offer still stands if you need admin help!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 20 December 2017, 13:31:52
Poul is affriad hanging alone on the hardware and entering resultat etc. (Andib is to beemed up to help
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 20 December 2017, 14:13:09
Do it! Book it! YES!  :)

Poul is affriad hanging alone on the hardware and entering resultat etc. (Andib is to beemed up to help

No need to be afraid. We'll have a great team of administration together! Everything will be smooth.
Hardware isn't a problem, at all. Spoke to Poul already, all we need is adapters, certain sets of... have it in mind already.  8)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 20 December 2017, 14:29:36
if WLAN is there, results entering could be done by players on mobile phone
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 20 December 2017, 14:57:12
tell me then, if the date is for sure and the place reserved for us.

then i will create the tournaments :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: xflea on 20 December 2017, 16:25:11
great news!

thumb up Klaris
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 21 December 2017, 07:48:12
"tell me then, if the date is for sure and the place reserved for us.

then i will create the tournaments :)"

I have contacted the renter and hopefully he will return fast with a positiv announcement:-). Then you can create the torunament.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Playaveli on 22 December 2017, 23:04:39
I'd pledge for a rule add-on to start some controversy:
- Your controller has to be Amiga-compatible (9pin) either by default or by adapter (Gameport-to-Amiga or USB-to-Amiga (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/forum/index.php?topic=26589.0)).
If you won't bring your own adapter, you will get one at the tournament and you will be charged with 10 Euros to cover the costs.

#idontlikecalibration  ;D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: romanista on 05 January 2018, 09:21:30
Billund would be interesting for me as well...  the date is crucial though
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 07 January 2018, 17:11:54
Hello Guys.

Great news. Got the contract and the place is ours now. Sensidays will be held in Billund from Friday the 20 Juli at 15.00 until Monday the 23 at 10 O´clock. Looking forward to see you all again. SO Micha, create the tournament.
There are 44 bed places + opportunity for tent and outdoor sleeping (I´ll do it myself).

Greetings Klaris
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: dior on 07 January 2018, 20:58:51
 Tickets booked. See you there :D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 07 January 2018, 22:57:47
great news :) i will create tournaments tomorrow morning :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: bobbiebobras on 07 January 2018, 23:01:07
Days Must Go On !!! and never stopped :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 January 2018, 08:31:20
PC: http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4618
AMIGA: http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4619

created :)

i could create classic sensi and xbox too :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 January 2018, 09:42:51
for all special sensidays informations we should create a new topic :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 08 January 2018, 11:04:43
I think Poul will create a new topic with poster etc.
Sure just create classic and X-box to.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 08 January 2018, 11:26:37
Looking forward to spoil you all wtih delicius food and the Dirty Pick:-)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 January 2018, 12:47:24
all tournaments created and open for registration :) cant wait for it :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: romanista on 08 January 2018, 13:09:25
Ah, this is both a great date (kids go on holiday), as a bad one (i might be going to egypt that week( but all signs seem good
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: andib on 08 January 2018, 14:36:06
Ah, this is both a great date (kids go on holiday), as a bad one (i might be going to egypt that week( but all signs seem good

Was the only weekend left at “Grene Lejren” that we could book.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 08 January 2018, 14:53:44
Go to egypt another week, I'll promiss you it will still be there, Sensidays isnt:-)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 08 January 2018, 21:05:29
In :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Klaris on 09 January 2018, 00:51:38
Great Rock. Gonna be nice to see you again my friend. Long time since
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Cleetus the V on 09 January 2018, 01:12:27
I'll be flying the flag for the permanently overachieving England team  ;D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2018
Post by: Rock and Roll on 09 January 2018, 07:47:20
I'll be flying the flag for the permanently overachieving England team  ;D

Both of us then I guess :)
Title: Re: 2018 application topic!
Post by: Playaveli on 09 January 2018, 14:10:45
New board added!  8)
Title: Re: 2018 application topic
Post by: ElMichaJ on 10 January 2018, 08:11:57
currently i am the SRN favorite on PC SWOS Sensidays :)