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Title: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 30 October 2018, 01:42:48
We’re organising a SWOS/Sensible Soccer V1.1 tournament in the north of the UK (Blackpool or York).

We’re looking at holding the tournament in April 2019. Dates we’re considering are April 6, April 13, or April 20.

We’ll be doing a one day event with both Amiga SWOS 96/97 and Sensible Soccer V1.1 tournaments, depending on the amount of entrants, we’ll be looking at doing both leagues and cups of both versions. We’ll also put on other retro games for a bit of fun.

I just wanted to get some sort of idea as to how many people are likely to enter before I book a venue.

Let me know here if you’re interested and which dates you can and can’t do and where you’d prefer the tournament to be held, York or Blackpool.

Cheers


Glenn,

Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 30 October 2018, 07:33:02
Will it be like one of the bigger tournaments (for example you try to have minimum 12 to 14 games for everyone) or is it more a quick K.O. offline cup and after 2 to 3 hours we play a different game?
For example like this -> http://stremlau.eu/hairfu/swos_connected/4players.html or is it more a smaller one?
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 30 October 2018, 11:54:32
Thanks for the link Hairfu. Very helpful seeing the format for an established tournament and gives me some food for thought on this comp.

The way we’d considered doing it was four seperate competitions. A league and a cup for SWOS and the same for sensi V1.1.

I’d like the cups to start with a series of mini leagues (like the actual World Cup). This means everyone would get plenty of games. How many times we play each other in the leagues would depend on the number of entrants. If we get a large number of entrants we’ll have to look at how we’ll do these.

When I’ve got a better idea of the number of likely entrants I’ll be able to draw up a more solid plan around the format, but whatever format we go for we’ll make sure everyone gets plenty of games throughout the whole day.

Cheers


Glenn
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 30 October 2018, 17:28:13
As I did not have any plans for my vacation next year maybe I could combine a visit on your SWOS tournament with a week in the Manchester area.
But befor I would visit a SWOS tournament, I have to be sure that it would be a serious tournament mode. Not a bunch of friendly leagues followed by a K.O. Cup, that have nothing in common (not a small friendly league and followed by an indipendent K.O. Cup).
For me a serious SWOS cup is with a Groupstages with minimum 5 or 6 players on every group and everyone in a group play 2x against each other. The better you was on your group, the more easy the opponent is on your K.O. stage (for example like on real World Cup or on real Champions League)

Look here what I mean and what is a serious tournament mode for me:

http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4204
http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4590
http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/3666
http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/927
http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/583

Best would be if you could tell us what kind of mode you make with what numer of players (just  like in the link I give you before -> http://stremlau.eu/hairfu/swos_connected/4players.html). And it would be very nice if you could tell us here who allready think about to come to your cup and who allready say he is coming, so that we have a look if it is more smaller or bigger cup :)

For me every date is the same, as I have to ask for free time on work. So just determine a date and I will see if I can make it.


Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 31 October 2018, 14:33:58
It would be great to have you at our tournament Hairfu. I was planning on seperate leagues and cups for both versions. So there’d be 4 titles up for grabs. This depends on how many entrants. If there’s a good turnout then there might not be time to play leagues, in which case we’d go with something along the lines of what you’ve suggested in the above links. In any case I’d like the cups to have a league system as the first round like in the actual World Cup. Whatever format we go with we’ll make sure everyone gets plenty of competitive games throughout the whole day. I’ll confirm a definite format as soon as possible.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 31 October 2018, 15:19:27
Ok, just post as soon as possible, what kind of tournament mode you will have on your tournament, so that everyone know for sure what is used on your SWOS day.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: ElMichaJ on 31 October 2018, 15:33:33
well that sounds nice :)
manchester could be the airport (cheap) for both cities ... just need a transfer and some bed :D
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 02 November 2018, 14:06:09
There’s good train services to both York and Blackpool from Manchester. And there’s loads of accommodation.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 04 November 2018, 03:33:59
Just a question about brexit. April is after the deadline of brexit. What about a visa for people from germany or other countrys in the european union. Do we need any forms to fill out or will be anything like before (I guess not)? At the moment I can just book a flight to england and everything is fine, what about after 29th of march 2019?
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 04 November 2018, 15:18:29
To be honest I have no idea. But I can’t believe it’ll make any difference to travel/holidays. I’m going to France on holiday next summer, and it’s not something I’ve worried about. I’ll have a bit of a look see if I can find anything.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Rock and Roll on 04 November 2018, 19:06:08
No-one knows what going to happen with Brexit.
I think it's highly unlikely that EU-citizens will require a visa and vice-versa.
BUT..if a visa is required it'll probably be just like the United States of Trump.
AKA, you'll have to electronically apply for a visa something like 72 hours in advance.
Probably cost somewhere around 10 euro's.

Glad I have dual nationality ;)
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: lobo on 04 November 2018, 21:09:22
I'll join this event, date permitting (can't do 13th). No preference location wise. Pleased to see SWOS coming home 🙃
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Playaveli on 04 November 2018, 21:16:03
I'll join this event, date permitting (can't do 13th). No preference location wise. Pleased to see SWOS coming home 🙃

Garthy asked me for 96/97 floppies... can you help out, lobo?
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 04 November 2018, 22:13:41
I'll join this event, date permitting (can't do 13th). No preference location wise. Pleased to see SWOS coming home 🙃

Garthy asked me for 96/97 floppies... can you help out, lobo?
I allready talk to Garthy and will send him disks :)
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Playaveli on 04 November 2018, 22:18:09
Perfect! One love for xcopy piracy! :P
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 04 November 2018, 22:59:20
Afd2Disk ist the perfect tool - no need for xcopy ^^
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 05 November 2018, 19:41:23
As Lobo can't play on 13th of April and 20th of April is easter weekend where probably a lot of people like to visit there familys. The 6th of April is the best date  ;) :P
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 05 November 2018, 22:21:36
Yep agreed, we’ll go with the 6th April.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 05 November 2018, 23:16:04
Yep agreed, we’ll go with the 6th April.
Is that the official date?
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 06 November 2018, 00:11:28
Yep, 6 April is the official date.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: lobo on 06 November 2018, 10:03:33
Great, it's in my calendar now.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Bomb on 06 November 2018, 13:57:39
As Lobo can't play on 13th of April and 20th of April is easter weekend where probably a lot of people like to visit there familys. The 6th of April is the best date  ;) :P
Yep agreed, we’ll go with the 6th April.
Is that the official date?
Yep, 6 April is the official date.

thats how history is made! :D

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It would be great to have you at our tournament Hairfu. I was planning on seperate leagues and cups for both versions. So there’d be 4 titles up for grabs. This depends on how many entrants. If there’s a good turnout then there might not be time to play leagues, in which case we’d go with something along the lines of what you’ve suggested in the above links. In any case I’d like the cups to have a league system as the first round like in the actual World Cup. Whatever format we go with we’ll make sure everyone gets plenty of competitive games throughout the whole day. I’ll confirm a definite format as soon as possible.

@Garthy: which versions will be played? (and what are the titles for?)

looks interesting. perhaps I can not play the world cup next year but then I should participate here...

Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 06 November 2018, 16:49:11
After having a chat with Hairfu, I’ve decided the main tournament will be SWOS 96/97 probably in a similar format to the below link.

http://stremlau.eu/hairfu/swos_connected/4players.html

A quick question for you guys with experience of organising tournaments, will this format fit into a 1 day event? I was thinking of kicking off at about 11:00am.

An alternative to this is the method the Kick Off guys use. They start off with a league or leagues and then they’re seeded into seperate cups, a bronze, silver and gold cup. So the highest league finishers play in the gold cup, the next highest finishers in the silver and so on. This gives weaker players a chance to win something. Worth thinking about, I’m open to discussion. At the end of the day I’m happy to go with the method preferred by the majority.


There’ll also be a Sensible Soccer version 1.1 tournament, probably a Cup knockout.

As to the title we’ll be playing for, I suppose We’ll have to come up with a name for it. Open to suggestions.

Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Playaveli on 06 November 2018, 17:24:56
Sure, with a handful of players you will easily finish on a day! :)
Just go with a group stage, then proceed with KO rounds in a simple manner (example 1st of group A vs. 4th of group B and so forth). All good!

There’ll also be a Sensible Soccer version 1.1 tournament, probably a Cup knockout.

Perfect idea! Same we're doing on the World Cups! Side event, only KO rounds... dramaaa baby!  8)
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 06 November 2018, 17:37:29
I will go with the tournament format of my link (stremlau.eu...) as it is the format that is used by most offline tournaments from here and it has proved that it works very well. You also can check out my official webpage of SWOS Hanse Cup 2008. Instead of supergroups we used a lower bracket that end as games for 3rd place. http://stremlau.eu/hairfu/swos-hanse08/


Booth formats (with supergroup and lower bracket) will need 6 to 8 hours. So if you start at 11:00 in the morning it is plenty of time and no need to worry about not  end at 18:00 or 19:00. 
With "just" Groupstage and then K.O. Stage it is probably even more faster if needed (instead of more games for all).
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: HairFU on 19 December 2018, 21:40:39
Good news. I have a free week around the date of your tournament. I will look up for flight and hotels on the next week. If everything work out I will join your tournament.
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: lobo on 08 January 2019, 16:50:19
Has the location of this event been confirmed yet?
Title: Re: UK Amiga SWOS/Sensi V1.1 Tournament
Post by: Garthy73 on 02 March 2019, 11:36:01
Sorry guys having cancel this due to not enough entrants.