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SENSIBLE (WORLD OF) SOCCER => Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany - July 27/28 => Topic started by: Playaveli on 03 February 2019, 02:30:30

Title: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 03 February 2019, 02:30:30
Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
July 27/28

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The official World Championships in Sensible World of Soccer 96-97 played on:
PC / Amiga

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Tournament website links

http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4864 (PC)
http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4863 (AMIGA)

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Introduction

The Sensible Days must go on! This time the world championship of SWOS will take place in Fulda, Germany. This will be the 16th edition held in the series of the World Cup, and for a second time in Fulda, after 10 years time. A remarkable story in itself, of what started out with just a few players meeting in Pirmasens, is now an ongoing international tradition for many years. We see players travel great distances to play their beloved game and meet with their fellow SWOS friends. During the weekend of 27/28 of July 2019, we will find out who will be crowned as World Champion of SWOS in both PC and Amiga. Along with the 2 main tournaments, a couple of small side-events and cups will also happen.

The tournaments are open to anyone, but a pre-payment is mandatory to join the event! This is done to ensure better organizing possibilities, arranging of groups & seedings, amount of equipment needed, getting the right amount of food & drinks etc.
 
If you have any questions regarding the event, feel free to contact the organizers. Contact info is listed below.

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Location info & tournament fee

a) ALL WEEKEND - from Friday 26th to Monday 29th JULY
BOOKING PRICE: 125€ - 1 place left
- 3 overnights from 26-29 July!
- A bed in one of the nice rooms
- A total of 8 meals, free soft drinks during meals
- (First meal = Friday evening / Last meal = Monday morning)
- Both tournament fees included.


ATTENTION: You might be refunded to some extend, if you only stay for 2 nights or 1 night. Nevertheless you have to pay 125 first (as a deposit).

FOR NOW WE COULD ORDER 40 BEDS! THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WE CAN OFFER MORE PLACES!!



b) SINGLE TOURNAMENT PARTICIPATION - Sat-27-July  and/or Sun-28-July
BOOKING PRICE: 35€ /day
- no overnight
- lunch & dinner incl.



The general pricing for joining Days 2019 is higher compared to previous editions due to rent price, general costs, hardware, better food and drinks. However all extra income will be donated to the sensiblesoccer.de organization. Everyone is also welcome to donate money to ensure future editions of the World Cup.

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Payment details

To participate at the Sensible Days 2019 please contact organizer - Playaveli / Philipp Habermann or ElMichaJ / Michael Jänsch for payment details by one of the following methods:

Private message in this forum to playaveli / elmichaj
Private message on Discord to playaveli / elmichaj
E-mail: elmichaj@sensiblesoccer.de playaveli@sensiblesoccer.de
Private message on facebook:  www.facebook.com/playaveli.swos (http://www.facebook.com/playaveli.swos)

Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/swosunited


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This event will take place at the same location as the World Cup in 2009. It is a very suitable place for the event, placed just outside of Fulda. It is very easy to come by car or train, and if the Frankfurt airport is just an hour away (by train).
The location has proven perfect in 2009 which saw one of the greatest World Cup's ever held. For organizers it is also perfect, as catering is completely taken care of by the Youth Hostel.

Location website and info
Website of the location - Youth Hostel Fulda (https://www.jugendherberge.de/en/youth-hostels/fulda-480/portrait//)

SWOS Community photos 2009
SWOS United Facebook Album (https://www.facebook.com/pg/swosunited/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1049401971804223)

Beds are divided in several rooms. Due to some restrictions from the Youth Hostel we can only offer one option right now!


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Players signed-up

PC (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4864) / AMIGA (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4863)

Confirmed players (Payments received)

1(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) PlayaveliAdmin
2(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/United_Kingdom.png) RockAdmin
3(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) ElMichaJAdmin
4(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) RomanistaPlayer Full Time
5(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) SebatoshPlayer Full Time
6(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) FifkoPlayer Full Time
7(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) FRK PawelPlayer Full Time
8(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) LeoninhoPlayer Full Time
9(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) ArcisasPlayer Full Time
10(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) BiggusPlayer Full Time
11(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) St. VitusPlayer Full Time
12(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) BombPlayer Full Time
13(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) KlinkiPlayer Full Time
14(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) PaiderPlayer Full Time
15(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) PinoPlayer Full Time
16(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) AndYpsilonPlayer Full Time
17(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) DiorPlayer Full Time
18(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Brazil.png) RudiportoPlayer Full Time
19(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) LoboPlayer Full Time
20(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) bobbiebobrasPlayer Full Time
21(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) DemoxSunday - Amiga
22(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) StalloneSunday - Amiga
23(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) SchullePlayer Full Time
24(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) KindelPlayer Full Time
25(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) KlarisPlayer Full Time
26(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) AndibPlayer Full Time
27(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) DjowgerPlayer Full Time
28(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) SpirPlayer Full Time
29(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) xfleaPlayer Full Time
30(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) BlazejPlayer Full Time
31(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Croatia.png) DotaPlayer Full Time
32(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) PeterSaturday - PC
33(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) AsboySaturday - PC
34(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) FulgoreSunday - Amiga
35(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) EbsterSunday - Amiga
36(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) cinekPlayer Full Time
37(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) SwoozhPlayer Full Time
38(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) NakkeostPlayer Full Time
39(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) BoesjesmanPlayer Full Time
40(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) Boesjesman Guest Full Time
41(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Netherlands.png) Nakkeost Guest Full Time
42(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Dzem Player Full Time
43(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) MakotoSunday - Amiga
44(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) PallisterPlayer Full Time



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Event Schedule

> Friday 26/7: Arrival day. Meets and greets. Location is open from around 2pm!

> Saturday 27/7: PC tournament starts around 12. A small side tournament will be held sometime in the afternoon. Probably Classic Sensible or XBLA.

> Sunday 28/7: Amiga tournament starts around 12. A small side tournament will be held sometime in the afternoon. Probably Classic Sensible or XBLA.

> Monday 29/7: Breakfast and farewells. People need to leave before 11.30.

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Format & Rules

The following rules are the same for both (AMIGA) & (PC). Only difference is the tactics and KO rules.

> 1st Group stage with groups played as DIY leagues. A maxium of 7 players will be in each group. Expected number of groups are 4-6. Players ranked top 4 in the groups are still in the tournament, while the rest can play the optional fun cup known as onion/cucumber tournament.
> 2nd Group stage will decide seedings for the knockout rounds which will consist of a Master group (group winners), Super group (runner-ups) and 2nd chance groups (3rd and 4th positions from 1st group stage.
> KO rounds, played as DIY cup

Players are placed in groups by drawing from pots made from placements on the ss.de offline / online rankings by the SWOS veterans and organizers.

> Teams:
Any original team from SWOS 96-97 may be chosen, and edited through Edited Custom Teams menu, to add a personal touch to your team (names and colors).
For base we will use the online save disk. A custom teams and tactics thread will be created later on.

> Pitch Type:
Always random (pressing ESC to get a new pitch, only if both players agree). If both players agree to play on a specific pitch this is fine too.

> Controllers:
Free of choice. Feel free to bring your own controller. Also there will be various controllers present at the tournament.

> Home player "advantage":
The "home" player may pick his seat position first if he wants to.

> Other gameplay rules:
Players are not allowed to press "R", "S", "SPACE", "F9" & "ESC" during a game unless agreed upon amongst the two players.
Number of substitutes for each match is 5 of 5.

> Gametime / options:
In the group stage 2 games will be played vs each player ("home" and "away" match) - 1 match lasts 3 mins. Groupstage options:

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> Specific AMIGA rules:

Amiga KO-rounds: 2 x 3 min, no ET, no penalties!
(https://i.imgur.com/RbhrZcx.png)

- If it's a draw another 2 games have to be played!
- If they also end in a draw (no extratime!!!) on agg. a penalty shootout will take place!

(https://i.imgur.com/Povvrb1.png)
(tactic rule for Amiga makes this mode mandatory, see below!)

> Special tactic rule for Amiga:
The home player (the first player of a fixture "Home vs. Guest") is allowed to use a custom tactic. If he does that the guest player is also allowed to load a custom tactic! If the home player doesn't use a custom tactic, the guest is not allowed to use a custom tactic.
If a custom tactic is chosen by the home player his opponent may use any available tactic on the disc if he hasn't got his own (except the one from opponent if he does not agree, unless he is not the creator of it)!

Optional: Players agree between themselves! (eg.: both games with tactic, or both games without) However, only 1 tactic may be loaded pr. game by each player!

> Specific PC rules:

PC KO-rounds: 2 legs, ET if replay, penalties if replay!
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- On PC custom tactics are allowed in every match without any restrictions! However, only 1 tactic may be loaded pr. game by each player!

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Transport

Address of Youth Hostel Fulda
Schirrmannstr. 31
36041 Fulda
Germany

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History

List of former champions:

PC
Amiga
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej   2018   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej   2017   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej   2016   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli   2015   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Bulgaria.png) Marin Parushev   2014   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Denmark.png) djowGer
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli   2013   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Turkey.png) Ali
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli   2012   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Turkey.png) Ali
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Blazej   2011   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Hungary.png) Hawkz
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Foka   2010   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Bulgaria.png) Marin Parushev
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Italy.png) Manuel   2009   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Italy.png) Lucaa83   2008   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Poland.png) Lobo
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli   2007   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Redhair   2006   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Playaveli   2005   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Redhair
(http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Belgium.png) Greg   2004   (http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/community/img/flags/Germany.png) Obi-Wan
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 04 February 2019, 18:21:35
i wouöd check the financial stuff ... Hardware Topic and german Administration Topic Need to be created
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 04 February 2019, 22:02:05
Tournament fee - Update!

a) ALL WEEKEND - from Friday 26th to Monday 29th JULY
BOOKING PRICE: 125€ - 39 places left
- 3 overnights from 26-29 July!
- A bed in one of the nice rooms
- A total of 8 meals, free soft drinks during meals
- (First meal = Friday evening / Last meal = Monday morning)
- Both tournament fees included.


ATTENTION:
You might be refunded to some extend, if you only stay for 2 nights or 1 night.
Nevertheless you have to pay 125 first (as a deposit).


FOR NOW WE COULD ORDER 40 BEDS! THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WE CAN OFFER MORE PLACES!!



b) SINGLE TOURNAMENT PARTICIPATION - Sat-27-July  and/or Sun-28-July
BOOKING PRICE: 35€ /day
- no overnight
- lunch & dinner incl.

Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 05 February 2019, 14:44:20
rock, playa, elmichaj payments done --- checked in
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 February 2019, 08:55:26
Romanista payment done

also got one from sebatosh, but cant find username on website
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 08:42:19
got the payment for 9 players from Koszalin Poland .... which are the names ?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 11 February 2019, 08:53:11
got the payment for 9 players from Koszalin Poland .... which are the names ?

Should be 7?

 - Fifko
 - FRK Pawel
 - Leoninho
 - Alvaro
 - Lupino
 - Arcisas
 - Wielki Gus
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 09:12:30
ok, they will be added ... 7 players ... not nine ... the fault was mine :D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 09:40:03
Wielki Gus

Account for Website is missing, cant add to tournaments
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 11:27:26
wielki gus => Biggus
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 13:21:05
payment st. vitus => 27 places left ^^
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 11 February 2019, 15:30:53
klinki und bomb added
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 12 February 2019, 08:59:23
paider added
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 12 February 2019, 13:18:16
pino and andYpsilon
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 25 February 2019, 18:09:42
dior in :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 28 February 2019, 08:52:02
rudiporto in :) !!!
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 02 March 2019, 11:12:56
lobo in
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 07 March 2019, 10:28:45
bobbiebobras in
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 18 March 2019, 16:38:15
Poster design: djowGer   8)

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Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Klaris on 22 March 2019, 12:27:22
As allways, nice job Djowger
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 04 April 2019, 04:41:25
What about xBox? R we doing it? We don't need x360 now, swos is available on xbox one. It's just the controllers we would have to sort out. I can look into that.

Hm... I don't need that tournament.
For me, PC / Amiga and Classic are enough.

Anyone? Well... Rock obviously!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 04 April 2019, 08:36:23
Demox added for Sunday :) Welcome new german guy
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 04 April 2019, 16:26:29
xbox would be nice, but we need a main admin for that responsible for tech and tournament
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: djowger on 04 April 2019, 16:53:13
I'm not sure but I think hairfu might have some adaptors for Xbox but I could be wrong. We were supposed to play it after amiga in hamburg but as always not enough time.

For the same reason I think all groups should be limited to 6 instead of 7.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: HairFU on 04 April 2019, 17:57:19
I'm not sure but I think hairfu might have some adaptors for Xbox but I could be wrong. We were supposed to play it after amiga in hamburg but as always not enough time.

For the same reason I think all groups should be limited to 6 instead of 7.

I had two adaptors to play with Amiga Controllers on Xbox 360 a few years ago, but I sell it to dior in 2015 as I did not use it in those years. After I did not had the time to rebuild a new adaptor short before the SWOS Hanse Cup, I had cancel the Xbox 360 Cup on my location this year. But it is very easy to build an adaptor to use Amiga Controllers on xbox 360. Only soldering skills needed but not knowledge about electronics or software programming.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Rock and Roll on 04 April 2019, 19:41:23
Well if we can get the hardware we should play X-Box. Of course :).
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: HairFU on 04 April 2019, 23:45:19
If needed I can lend you a Xbox 360.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 08 April 2019, 03:13:30
@ Micha:

Did demox only pay for himself?

http://sensiblesoccer.de/community/tournaments/view/4863
There are 3 other Germans on the list who are supposedly his mates and come along, too...
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 08 April 2019, 10:58:17
he paid only one fee, not for the others
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 10 April 2019, 09:48:52
stallone checked in for sunday amiga
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 15 April 2019, 17:49:22
schulle and kindel checked in  .... 16 places left
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 01 May 2019, 20:16:52
Big Cups are ordered! 8) Classic ones, in grand-lady tradition!
(32cm high)

Medals and little trophies will follow later.

Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: djowger on 01 May 2019, 23:53:41
Very nice Philipp. Where did you find them?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 02 May 2019, 05:40:43
Very nice Philipp. Where did you find them?

Thanks, Poul.
Found them on first try/search on eBay, only 2 were available. Didn't hesitate to buy them immediately!  8)
Didn't you have them as well, in Billund 2014?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: djowger on 02 May 2019, 11:12:21
Very nice Philipp. Where did you find them?

Thanks, Poul.
Found them on first try/search on eBay, only 2 were available. Didn't hesitate to buy them immediately!  8)
Didn't you have them as well, in Billund 2014?

Yeah.. Was only hard to come by these last couple of years. Sometimes you can get lucky :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 02 May 2019, 15:52:47
Very nice Philipp. Where did you find them?

Thanks, Poul.
Found them on first try/search on eBay, only 2 were available. Didn't hesitate to buy them immediately!  8)
Didn't you have them as well, in Billund 2014?

Yeah.. Was only hard to come by these last couple of years. Sometimes you can get lucky :)

Or not lucky... just got a message from the seller. He listed 2, but only has 1... LOL!
Figuring out what to do now. Either keep one, and get a different one for the other tournament.

Or cancel completely, and buy 2 of the same kind.  (Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/382846012956)

Just drop me a line with opinions.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 02 May 2019, 16:01:33
Scratch that... :)

I will cancel that single one. Just had the idea to look on US eBay, since I am still over here.
And look: https://www.ebay.com/itm/273251772069

This is 30cms. Great looks, perfect price, incl. engraving.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 06 May 2019, 09:21:03
Spir confirmed.

12 Places left
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 06 May 2019, 10:12:36
by the way .. there is always a small paypal fee of 3 € for each transfer .... would be nice to get some of this back by some donations.

28 x 3 € = 84 € atm
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 06 May 2019, 10:50:27
xflea confirmed

11 places left
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 06 May 2019, 17:04:30
by the way .. there is always a small paypal fee of 3 € for each transfer .... would be nice to get some of this back by some donations.

28 x 3 € = 84 € atm

Is there? There shouldn't be one from EU countries / € zone.
Should only apply to some participants. Can you recheck that?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 07 May 2019, 09:32:18
most of the polish and dutch transactions had this like 3 € per 125 €, not the danish or german ones.



by the way .... bomb and blazej checked in...

so 9 places left
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 08 May 2019, 20:46:59
Maybe a bit late, but why not some more promo:  8)

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=97304
http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=146377
https://forum.retrogamer.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55589
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Rock and Roll on 08 May 2019, 22:36:40
most of the polish and dutch transactions had this like 3 € per 125 €, not the danish or german ones.


Only PayPal? (I paid by bank transfer)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 09 May 2019, 13:50:55
only the paypal stuff ... it does not hurt much, but i just want to inform about 

so still we have 9 places left (i reserved one for dota)

are there interested players left ? which want to pay later ?
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 09 May 2019, 17:52:38
only the paypal stuff ... it does not hurt much, but i just want to inform about 

so still we have 9 places left (i reserved one for dota)

are there interested players left ? which want to pay later ?

Asboy and Peter... sent them a payment reminder on Facebook.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 16 May 2019, 16:51:33
We have following rooms to our convenience:

1x 4-bed-room (reserved for organizers)

2x 8-bed room
5x 5-bed room

So, you can go ahead and make up your minds of who is staying with you in a room.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: djowger on 16 May 2019, 17:26:12
Would like to reserve one of the 5xbed rooms for the 4 danes
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: dior on 16 May 2019, 19:04:04
We would go with 8. Me, Lobo, Bobbie, Błażej, xFlea and we are still waiting for Cinek, Foka and Dzem, Rmaneq hopefully...
If possible to book it sort of in advance of course.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 16 May 2019, 19:05:35
Sure, guys! Just keep posting. Will try to set rooms at your best convenience.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 17 May 2019, 13:10:59
peter and asboy added for PC saturday
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: m.c.t. on 20 May 2019, 12:02:56
Hi all! Just a question. Is anyone going from Stuttgart on 26th or 27th to Fulda? Or passing through Stuttgart and have space to pick me up? And is going back to Stuttgart right after PC tournament?

ps. Of course we would split fuel expenses :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 20 May 2019, 16:51:10
not sure if anyone is joining from stuttgart....
but me or other could pick you up in fulda bus or train station

https://shop.flixbus.de/search?departureCity=101&arrivalCity=389&route=Stuttgart-Fulda&rideDate=26.07.2019&adult=1&_locale=de&is_train_relation=true&wt_eid=2155836372300461549&wt_t=1558363731449&affiliate=%28not+set%29%2C&_ga=2.249120451.570318235.1558363722-443548886.1558363722

prices are quite ok currently ... 3 hours of travelling.

would be nice to see you and meet in PC group again ;)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 20 May 2019, 19:16:12
I hope you can make it, MCT!!  8)

Same link in Serbian language:
https://shop.flixbus.rs/search?_sp=4f2123f4-5eba-44d3-80fd-bf35f502828c.1558372545549&departureCity=101&arrivalCity=389&route=Stuttgart-Fulda&rideDate=26.07.2019&adult=1&_locale=sr_Latn_RS&is_train_relation=true&wt_eid=2155836372300461549&wt_t=1558372545572&affiliate=%28not+set%29%2C&_ga=2.172549670.404259442.1558372519-2109597761.1558372519
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 23 May 2019, 18:25:35
About the group drawing:

What about a digital version of it instead of surprise eggs hassle?
Writing names in a little program, then having groups drawn on button click, everyone watching on the big screen.

Would make things much easier for organizers and still enjoyable for everyone to watch.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Rock and Roll on 23 May 2019, 18:40:54
So no warming the eggs beforehand Playa? :D
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: djowger on 23 May 2019, 19:08:48
No worries here.. But do we have such a program available? But perhaps Hawkz can be pursuaded into modifying his already awesome excel sheet with a draw page also.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 23 May 2019, 19:19:43
So no warming the eggs beforehand Playa? :D

Na, no hassle with my balls... ehrrm eggs anymore! :P

No worries here.. But do we have such a program available? But perhaps Hawkz can be pursuaded into modifying his already awesome excel sheet with a draw page also.

Yea, I was thinking about Hawkz, too. Will also ask Redhair if he can do something like his old Sensible Days Manager.
*edit* he just sent me this link: http://www.auslosungstool.de/  works great! :) So we'd have something already.

Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Rock and Roll on 25 May 2019, 15:32:36
I used Google Sheets in Billund because it has an automatic sorting function for league tables etc.
The same can be done in Excel, but it's more difficult to produce a league table (you need to create a
few auxiliary columns with countif's and so on).

Random numbers are easily produced in both programs, though I'd have to think about how to implement
this in a live draw situation. Then again, the more I think about it, the more Ilike the physical drawing of pots
instead of just pressing a button. I only need to type in a name (or even an abbreviation) to put someone
in a group/draw so it should be easy to do "live", maybe even easier than a random Excel-draw.

I think I could use both systems at Sensi Days without too much trouble. It all has to do with what
the community wants in the spreadsheets, aka what should happen automatically etc.. I'm busy with
marking final exams etc. at the moment. It might be handy if we all think of what we want in Excel (or
Google Sheets) at Sensible Days. I've contacted Hawkz to see what we can implement.

Aka, please state what we want/need :) .
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 30 May 2019, 19:55:45
As we've spoken on whatsapp, let's go for Excel for the group drawing, with a nice layout in Hawkz' quality/style.
No hassling with those bowls and surprise eggs.

What we want/need? Well, seems like we'll have 6 groups to start with on both big formats, so 6 pots for each one.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Rock and Roll on 09 June 2019, 23:48:12
Busy working on the spreadsheet before sending it to Hawkz for tweeks, cosmetics and overall improvements.
Seeing as we're going to have 6 groups NO MATTER WHAT, I've programmed 10 possible pots.
So 6 groups with 10 players max. The spreadsheet can be easily adapted for less than 10 in the groups.
It has an automatic fixture set, but if we prefer we can enter the fixture list per group which swos generates, just
before the tournaments get under way.
Got a random draw in, result entering, automatic league tables, automatic calculating qualifiers for Master, Super,
Repecharges, KOs all seem to work. Just need a cosmetic polish, and a KO tree.

Busy programming a page for automatic best attacker / best defender but I have some questions first.
- Can a Bacon/Onion/Cucumber/Sauerkraut etc etc qualifier win best attacker / best defender?
  I'm inclined to not allow these matches to count towards best defender / attacker.
  Can these matches count? Or do only the matches these players played in the groups count?
  Or must you finish in the top 4 of your group to be eligible for best defender / attacker?
- Is the best defender / attacker still the player with the best average?
  Previous editions we've always used the average = goals / matches played to determine the winners.

Yet again the question; does anything else need to be put in the spreadsheet?
I hope to finish the boring stuff this week :).
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: xflea on 10 June 2019, 11:40:01
hey Rock, could you send me this excel file to xflea@poczta.onet.pl to have a look and beta testing? :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 10 June 2019, 11:50:20
*c&p from whatsapp:

I think we should stick with averages.
And every match should count for that, no matter if cucumber or master group.
Alcohol can be involved, that is part of it, and part of the humor.
As long as the rules are followed (eg: no own goals on purpose etc) everything is fine.

Do not hassle... just count all the matches which are also entered on website.

So, yes, EVERYONE can be best goal scorer or defender, no matter which route of the tournament he will take. Master or Sauerkraut... every match counts!
We'll stick with averages!

Great work, Rock. Really awesome! Looking forward to using that spreadsheet.
Please share it with me when it's done, so I can do some tests. *edit* just saw your message on FB. Thanks!  8)

Question ahead:
Will a player be drawn from a pot on one's button click? To "simulate" opening the surprise egg? That would be essential...  :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 16 June 2019, 00:01:32
cinek ebster and fulgore added :)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 18 June 2019, 14:38:59
Boesjesman + visitor Nakkeost + visitor Swoozh confirmed

3 places left ^^
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: Playaveli on 18 June 2019, 18:15:44
Had a phone conference with Micha yesterday.

We've decided to NOT play an XBOX tournament for good reasons:
- Not sure about hardware
- Not sure about adapters
- Relax the schedule for everyone
- Too much hassle :P

Best goalscorers will be awarded with the CANON, as it is a German tradition in real football (Bundesliga)!  8)

(http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1905/Bilder/torjaegerkanone-600.jpg)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: andib on 18 June 2019, 23:52:46
Fine with me, Playaveli and Micha.

It was almost too much in Almelo and even worse without adapters.
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 19 June 2019, 09:00:04
dzemandowski confirmed ;)
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 19 June 2019, 23:15:55
makoto added for amiga
Title: Re: Sensible Days 2019 - Fulda, Germany
Post by: ElMichaJ on 20 June 2019, 14:32:08
Pallister confirmed