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What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« on: 21 March 2009, 11:53:31 »
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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #1 on: 21 March 2009, 12:10:14 »
For me it is Manchester United - Premier League Champions.

And Speedball 2  ;)

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #2 on: 21 March 2009, 13:29:35 »
Hmm.. Tough one to answer.... :)

I hope you mean gameplay wise (so please dont say manager all of you ;)

I'd have to say newest FIFA 09. Tried it out at a friends place. Completely diff. from SWOS, but perhaps the most realistic footy game there is on the market. There are so many amazing details in that game. Only thing is that I almost fall asleep playing it, but this probably because I compare it to much to SWOS. ;)

A few years ago i really liked PES, but it haven't evolved for 3-4 versions now which is really sad. In the old days, i use to play alot of International Superstar Soccer on my SNES (PES ealiest version). So i was a PES fan some time. That has ended... :(

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #3 on: 21 March 2009, 14:55:54 »
Nice question Red.. Am thinking now.. and thinking.. and I really dont know.. Ofcourse I played some soccer games.. But if I can call them best soccer game ? Dont know.. hmm I liked Adidas Power Soccer '96 on Playstation.. U could make the referee blind and give a flying kick to your opponent :D that was great :D

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #4 on: 21 March 2009, 15:30:17 »
J.League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championships (which isn't quite PES, they JP and Euro versions have always been in fact two different takes on the same title and the latest releases diverged a lot gameplay-wise) for Playstation 2 NTSC-J. Much better than its PS3 counterpart (same producer, different development team) and such a great footie game overall.

I got FIFA 09 on PS3 as well but I dislike way too many aspects of its gameplay and uncannyvalleyc visuals to enjoy it.


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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #5 on: 21 March 2009, 16:09:38 »



uhh, not sure what happened but when I modified the links to embed one of the videos the post layout got screwed and it wouldn't let me repost any link...so I'll do it here:

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #6 on: 21 March 2009, 16:15:42 »
This is my electronic football career:


C64: International Soccer (by Andrew Spencer 1983)


C64: Microprose Soccer


Amiga: Kick Off 2 (before Sensi)


Xbox: Pro Evolution Soccer 5
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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #7 on: 21 March 2009, 17:53:19 »
Sierra Soccer for Amiga (1994) because of its totally strange ball physics. It's fun!


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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #8 on: 21 March 2009, 18:05:54 »
Micrprose Soccer and Microprose Soccer Hall !!!!

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #9 on: 21 March 2009, 22:57:28 »
no doubt  "EMLYN HUGES INTERNATIONAL SOCCER".

Do not forget that it's  PES and FIFA grandpa!

em. hughes -> lothar matthaus -> fifa international soccer -> fifa 9x, winning eleven etc.

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #10 on: 22 March 2009, 03:09:33 »
I have been a fan of the whole WE/ISSF/PES saga since the very first PSX WE game, though lately their latest versions are getting worse and worse. And no improvements at all. 1 player modes suck badly and they don't seem to care about improving them. I currently only play PES occasionally with some friends (that don't like swos obviously).

There are 2 more games that marked me back in the old days:
Match Day and Emlyn Hughes International Soccer

Both for ZX Spectrum, really enjoyed them by then. First Match Day (1 and then 2) then when I got Emlyn Hughes that became my favourite game ever. Spent endless hours with it, looked so real at that time :D
It was my favourite soccer game till... Sensi arrived.

PS : Socio please don't tell PES and FIFA have the same grandpa, that would mean they are cousins? They aren't. They are from completely different families :)
FIFA is a lame game.

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #11 on: 22 March 2009, 03:14:21 »
Let's add some pictures too:


ZX Spectrum : Match Day 1


ZX Spectrum : Match Day 2


ZX Spectrum : Emlyn Hughes International Soccer

They still look great ;D

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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #12 on: 22 March 2009, 10:31:36 »


PS : Socio please don't tell PES and FIFA have the same grandpa, that would mean they are cousins? They aren't. They are from completely different families :)


indeed they are!

the real WE/PES ancestors:

Konami Hyper Soccer (NES/Famicom)



Jikkyou Soccer Perfect Eleven/International Superstar Soccer (Super Famicom/SNES) - I've played this game probably just as much as Sensible Soccer back then, it was just that much better than the best next thing, EPOCH's J.League Excite Stage.



Jikkyuou Soccer Fighting Eleven/Int'l Superstar Soccer Deluxe



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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #13 on: 22 March 2009, 12:56:20 »
I remember playing Match Day II on C64, it was so f***ing slow ;D
Anyway, it was really not bad and I remember that I was cheering so much when I've scored such a great header goal hehehe

I've played Emlyn Hughes too (on Amiga), good graphics and it was not so bad but also not really good. I was never a fan of it cause I didn't like the gameplay. But it was good enough to pass the time till I've got Player Manager or Kick Off 2.

My very first game on Amiga was "Manchester United: The Official Computer Game" but it was not good.

Other "not so bad" soccer games I've played on Amiga were Manchester United Europe and Striker.
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Re: What's the best soccer game, excluding SWOS?
« Reply #14 on: 23 March 2009, 07:55:44 »
I have similar "football gaming career" like Daimaou. My first football game was Match Day and I loved it, we played this a lot with my brother. After trying Emlyn Hughes Iˇve never played Match Day again. I dont remember exactly but I think my first Amiga football was Lotthar Matthaus (=Rettee 2, European Champions and perhaps many other names) and I liked it a lot, its improved Emlyn. I played KickOff on one weekend, I was not able to score.  :) Then two Sensible Soccer games (1.1 and 1.2 ? I am not sure) and SWOS. It was my first original game I ever bought and it made me angry a bit, Marek PeMksa in Frankfurt, 7M (they just renamed Tony Yeboah) and Beguiristain in Barca,15 M (renamed Romario) are "stains" on SWOS reputation  :)
Also Man Utd-PLC is very good game, its duplicate of SWOS (and thats why it is good  ;)) and its not easy game.
I played first FIFA on Amiga and in my opinion its pure crap.
Super Sidekicks was the only arcade game I ever played and its not bad but its game for one afternoon or weekend.
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