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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #285 on: 16 June 2016, 15:02:38 »
I've found a way to make very SWOS-like updates. I'm using the SWOS database to extract the exact distribution of skills for a group of players.
(e.g. what percentage of defenders has Heading 7, 6, 5, etc.)
I'm using both player (height, age, goals, assists, etc.) and team characteristics (goals for and against, etc) to calculate his SWOS skills and scale them to his price. (main skill not scaled as that would defeat the purpose)

I'm using data for additional positions played to create some extra randomness.
E.g. player that player 12 games as wing back and 12 as winger will have a template which is exactly 50/50 back/winger skills.
That will then be additionally modded with all I've mentioned before.
If he's a a RB in a team with great defense he'll have more tackling than a 50/50 back/winger would. If he's supershort he'll have less heading. If he's 47 he'll have speed 0. Etc.



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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #286 on: 16 June 2016, 15:07:44 »
Hello, if Gorzo is not particularly interested in the Czech Republic, I can take it.

I have experiences with editing, about 10 years ago we (me, ceBBek, Giorro) were making massive updates like this (unfortunately pages are gone, so you remember me or you must trust me:D)

Red from the Czech Republic

I remember you and ceBBek! :) Welcome, mate! (do you have the old URLs?)

*edit*

As you can see here: http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/forum/index.php?topic=26241.0
Czech Rep. league is already done, beta status. Only transfers need to be done by Gorzo, after August.

But you may, of course, help with the still unassigned leagues, ONLY 8 LEAGUES OPEN:

- Belarus
- Cyprus
- Israel
- Luxembourg
- Romania
- Slovakia
- Slovenia
- U.S.A.
« Last Edit: 16 June 2016, 16:29:48 by Playaveli »

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #287 on: 16 June 2016, 19:06:05 »
Nice! We have not webpages anymore, but if is someone interested in 2006 rosters here are data. You would need modified exe to play career, but I cant upload more than 0.9Mb I still play these for nostalgia reasons.

I do not follow now football as I used to so I would be not good for foreign countries. I can probably make export from Czech Soccer Manager which last update from Autumn 2015 has all these leagues except Belarus and update transfers acccording webpage, but some user from these countries would be probably not pleased:D

If you are making historic teams, I hope to see Czech Republic 2004 because we were beast! :D

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #288 on: 16 June 2016, 19:07:48 »
Hehe, ok! in that case, let some others do the job. Thanks anyway.
About the website you had, do you remember the URL (website address??). It might have been stored in webarchive.
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #291 on: 18 June 2016, 12:53:36 »
Started working on ALGERIA Ligue Professionelle 1.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #292 on: 19 June 2016, 14:37:42 »
Here's a fun example of age-related player skill correction.
Players near their optimal age often don't change enough for the change to register, but very old players get significant boosts since in real life their price drops much faster than their skill. That's why considering 2M Pirlo for Italian national team makes much more sense than considering a Pirlo worth 350k :)

Also, with original prices Buffon would be  a solid  goalkeeper in croatian league, while Pirlo would be a below average midfielder.
With adjusted prices it's clear Buffon would be by far the best keeper in croatian league, and Pirlo would be amongst the best midfielders - as they should be :)


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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #293 on: 21 June 2016, 16:31:47 »
Poland added :) I will take Belarus league :)

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« Reply #294 on: 22 June 2016, 10:23:12 »
It's great that transfermarkt has all those stats. For example you can see how many goals of each players where headers/solo runs/long distance kicks, etc :)

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #295 on: 22 June 2016, 17:37:02 »
Poland added :) I will take Belarus league :)

Hello. I can do Slovak league. And Slovak national team, if no one have it until now. In next days I will learn how you do it, but it should be not difficult.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #296 on: 23 June 2016, 17:05:22 »
Austria and Belarus added :) now I`m taking USA MLS League :)

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #297 on: 25 June 2016, 15:50:17 »
I've been wondering why my league results were off/not correlating to player skills entirely so I've done some tests. A lot of them.

Conclusion: Teams with a certain general team number perform better than others. Even if you copy paste the same team and they're all identical, it's like some have a constant boost to their results, and some have a constant cut. Go figure!

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #298 on: 27 June 2016, 07:10:44 »
Will there be no Messi in Argentina?  :o
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #299 on: 27 June 2016, 10:44:50 »
Why not? He was playing before this update. That's why post-season updates are better than pre-season ones. You never know which new player will make it to the team, or if Messi will truly retire or not :)