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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #450 on: 12 September 2016, 22:29:46 »
USA was in the original swos though... So he'll be in it going off that.

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« Reply #451 on: 12 September 2016, 22:31:01 »
Oh, was it? Gathered it was not from Rock'solid previous post 
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #452 on: 12 September 2016, 22:32:26 »
Yeah used to get lalas and campos all the time

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« Reply #453 on: 12 September 2016, 22:35:12 »
Even more so, bring original structure on.
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #454 on: 12 September 2016, 22:37:58 »
Can understand people wanting china over Taiwan because of all the crazy transfers at the moment though. But defo needs to stick to the same structure as the original.  People will no doubt do the usual legends updates etc once this is done though.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #455 on: 12 September 2016, 23:54:58 »
I dont know if it is the right thread to write in, but I do it anyway.

First, Armando did an excellent job with making the excel-sheet, but I see some problems.

First problem: I made some of the National Teams in North America before I knew about the excel-sheet. I can see if I calculate from the "editing rules" the price is below the one from the excel-sheet. It vary up to 100k from time to time. This is really a lot for those poor teams.

Second problem: Lots of the players get speed as one of the main abilities (from Excel), which really doesnt make sense.

Third problem: E.g some of the attackers might get too much in "tackling". So you have to re-calculate anyway.
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #456 on: 13 September 2016, 05:24:16 »
@andib: I do not have excel, so I couldn't use armandos sheet. anyway, after getting the players in the swos editor and randomly calculating their skills, I very often had to "correct" or switch player skills because it did not make sense.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #457 on: 13 September 2016, 07:36:21 »
@lobo: I meant the size of USA's league in SWOS. El Salvador has way more teams.
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« Reply #458 on: 13 September 2016, 07:41:13 »
@andib: I do not have excel, so I couldn't use armandos sheet. anyway, after getting the players in the swos editor and randomly calculating their skills, I very often had to "correct" or switch player skills because it did not make sense.

Exactly and I have of course done the same and decreased the value of the players. Guess others havent done this so it will not show correct value with a lot of players in the update. Compared to others "our" teams will be weak.
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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #459 on: 13 September 2016, 13:42:09 »
@andib: I do not have excel, so I couldn't use armandos sheet. anyway, after getting the players in the swos editor and randomly calculating their skills, I very often had to "correct" or switch player skills because it did not make sense.

Exactly and I have of course done the same and decreased the value of the players. Guess others havent done this so it will not show correct value with a lot of players in the update. Compared to others "our" teams will be weak.

This update will be spot on. I fly over each uploaded team file, so big mistakes in price (and speed skill) will be corrected.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #460 on: 13 September 2016, 13:50:16 »
I think Playaveli is checking the values of players and balancing across leagues before he submits them into the official update isn't he?

Edit: sorry, replied before I saw Playa's post.

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« Reply #461 on: 13 September 2016, 14:05:59 »
Well it is a crazy job. Lots of work.

Great work Playa
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« Reply #462 on: 13 September 2016, 18:29:29 »
When you update your team I hope you look at wikipedia as well for recent call-ups.

I can mention Raul Jimenez from Mexico. He has 47 caps and is 25 years old. He is playing in Benfica and was injured during the match against Honduras the 6th of September 2016.

He is valued €8mio = €1.8mio, but he is not in the overview of the Mexican national team on transfermarkt.

I might not matter that much for a team like Bermuda or the El Salvadorian 4th division, but it is pretty important for the Mexican team to have a second striker like this along with Chicharito.

Could be the same for many African and European national teams as well and you wont find these players if you only use the excel-sheet. You have to do a bit more than this.

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #463 on: 13 September 2016, 22:16:02 »
^^ well said!
As with every scientific studies, you have to rely on or rather quote more than just one source (for National teams!).

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Re: SWOS 16/17 - The official unofficial Update
« Reply #464 on: 14 September 2016, 12:46:19 »
Could you get me advice about shirt numbers, how can I use them? Can I give any from 1-11 to the starting squad? THX