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Some work, some just rip off...
« on: 10 May 2016, 20:09:25 »
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #1 on: 10 May 2016, 20:35:25 »
What exactly are you objecting to? It looks like he has done all the editing/config himself?

Do the gfx updates belong to somebody else?
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #2 on: 10 May 2016, 20:35:54 »
Same dude, even worse ripping off:
https://www.facebook.com/SWOS-17-153525788184005/?fref=ts

Wonder where he found those graphics...

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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #3 on: 10 May 2016, 20:37:28 »
What exactly are you objecting to? It looks like he has done all the editing/config himself?

Do the gfx updates belong to somebody else?

Point1: Selling swos as a pirated copy is illegal!
Point2: Using fan updates / tutorials / install packages from other people, who did it for free, and make money of it, is ripping off!
Point3: Without asking, even brazen!
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #4 on: 10 May 2016, 20:46:01 »
He claims it is abandonware. If it is not, then distributing copies for free is just as illegal as selling them.

He also claims to be updating the data himself, lies?

If he's using gfx made by other ppl, yeah he should have at least asked!



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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #5 on: 10 May 2016, 20:51:17 »
He claims it is abandonware. If it is not, then distributing copies for free is just as illegal as selling them.

He also claims to be updating the data himself, lies?

If he's using gfx made by other ppl, yeah he should have at least asked!

Nice claims.

SWOS is not abandonware, even though some websites offer it for download. Among them are ourselves, but we are tolerated by Codemasters!
The claim of having updated that by himself isn't worth a penny, looking at the updates of 15/16 on here.

The gfx is copyrighted by Codemasters, too. You can edit that for personal use, sure. But making money with it? See above.

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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #6 on: 10 May 2016, 21:00:24 »
Thanks for the info.

I have no problem with people selling stuff like this, but I agree that he shouldn't be doing it if it is illegal, or if he's using other people's work without permission.

I liken it to GNU/Linux. It's perfectly acceptable, and good for the community, for people to offer custom packaged versions with support for sale.

If people can make money selling boxed versions of Ubuntu (and they do) then good on em, as long as they aren't violating any of the licenses.
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #7 on: 10 May 2016, 21:25:57 »
His fb page is kinda old, right?

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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #8 on: 10 May 2016, 22:58:37 »
Same dude, even worse ripping off:
https://www.facebook.com/SWOS-17-153525788184005/?fref=ts

Wonder where he found those graphics...


His post an hour ago:
"Take no notice of anyone calling my hard work fake thousands of hours of editing and 16 years waiting to edit raw gfx and be only person in land with 2017 team data come next season"


Btw, he calls himself "Game designer, creator and owner of SWOS 17"

^^ Disgusting!
« Last Edit: 10 May 2016, 23:14:06 by Playaveli »

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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #9 on: 10 May 2016, 23:27:59 »
Well if he's being such an a****** about it, and is lying about making the gfx himself, and SWOS is still under copyright, shouldn't be too difficult to have him sent a "cease and desist?"
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #10 on: 10 May 2016, 23:32:04 »
Well if he's being such an a****** about it, and is lying about making the gfx himself, and SWOS is still under copyright, shouldn't be too difficult to have him sent a "cease and desist?"

Just use link in first post to report him to eBay!
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #11 on: 10 May 2016, 23:34:29 »
What are we reporting, technically? I mean, you have to be careful as false reports of this kind can be illegal.

Doesn't the copyright holder have to make the report? In this case Codemasters?
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #12 on: 10 May 2016, 23:36:56 »
Also, maybe we should let his "customers" know on Facebook that these updates have been made freely available for years by the lovely people here.
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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #13 on: 10 May 2016, 23:37:06 »
Like this!

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Re: Some work, some just rip off...
« Reply #14 on: 11 May 2016, 07:46:29 »
I was looking at his screenshots and his gfx mods don't look like any other screenshots I could find.

Would be useful if someone could grab some in-game screens so we could post them side by side and prove he's stealing stuff.

I'm also tempted to buy it form him to do a comparison of the data. Will be able to prove that he's just stolen other people's data edits.

Codemasters don't seem to give a shit about sensible soccer, so I'm more concerned about him pissing off this community :)
« Last Edit: 11 May 2016, 10:24:48 by higgipoker »
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