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WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« on: 07 June 2018, 17:19:54 »
I am preparing a diy tournament to be loaded with Swos++ with exact groups like the real world cup. It should be released in some days.

Players rankings won't have transfermarkt values and automatically generated stats from SWOES as I've noticed they are absolutely unrealistic. Differently from original SWOS, SWOES put always high rankings to the most important values for the role of the player, creating always very performing players. I used FIFA ranking converted in SWOS rankings (i.e. 80 > 2mn trying to reach that value with FIFA stats).
I think that the gameplay is more enjoyable.

Second, I edited some tactics and noticed how much tactics are important in SWOS. In modern updates we choose usually 4-2-4 or 4-3-3 which are anyway very different from the acutal 4231 or modern 433.
Using a classic 442, the game is more difficult than with 424 as.. in the second there are quite not midfielders.

I edited a modern 4-3-3, with closer midfielders and defenders creating defending diagonals and the game was actually harder and more enjoyable (this is just amazing for a game 21yrs old!)

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #1 on: 12 June 2018, 14:36:13 »
Here it is!

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #2 on: 13 June 2018, 18:12:31 »
Great job. How did you do that? Do you have any programm to do that?
Regards

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #3 on: 13 June 2018, 18:15:03 »
Great job. How did you do that? Do you have any programm to do that?
Regards

This might help:
http://www.sensiblesoccer.de/forum/index.php?topic=15789.0

Further down you'll find some exe attached!

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #4 on: 13 June 2018, 20:42:15 »
Thx
How to create 64 teams tournament?

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #5 on: 14 June 2018, 15:43:54 »
Fixed, now loadable with Swos++ too

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #6 on: 15 June 2018, 22:47:08 »
Made a prediction with your DIY, untouched... England in the final! LOL!  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: 16 June 2018, 10:19:56 »
I had twice Germany-Argentina and once Spain-Brazil  ;D Great japanese exploit  :o

When Italy failed to qualify to World Cup, an english friend said to me "don't worry, you still have more chance to win the world cup than us"  ;D ;D


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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #8 on: 19 June 2018, 20:36:09 »
Here it is!

EDIT: *** whoops, my bad I only just see that this is the PC forum  ::) ***

Well I added both DIY files posted here to the career_1617.adf (using adfviewer) of the Amiga SWOS game, but this does not seem to work. It mentions 'made by another SWOS version' , any suggestions?

I also have FS-UAE installed, and think I would then have to add it to Save Disk.sdf, but do not know how to open that file.
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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #9 on: 03 July 2018, 10:21:26 »
Japan were not that bad at the end  ;D ;D ;D

Made some experiments always focusing on tactics.

Played Flamengo-Corinthians with FIfa18 stats, initially with standard 4-2-4 modules.
I won 6-0, 18 shots goal for me, 1 for CPU.

After I managed to set a 4-2-3-1 module dowloaded elsewhere, I won 4-0.

Then I created a 4-2-3-1 with modern positions, with lower midfielders pressing in their half, defenders pressing outside the penalty area and covering positions like diagonals following the ball.
Final score: 0-0, 11 shots on goal for me, 9 for CPU and several fouls and yellow cards.

Impressive how much this game is deep.

« Last Edit: 03 July 2018, 10:33:53 by Kanchelskis »

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« Reply #10 on: 08 July 2018, 22:31:49 »
No third place playoff. I wonder why in preset WC there's option for that, but DIY doesn't give that option :(

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #11 on: 09 July 2018, 03:11:39 »
No third place playoff. I wonder why in preset WC there's option for that, but DIY doesn't give that option :(

Good point. I have always missed a 3rd place match option in DIY, too!

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #12 on: 09 July 2018, 16:51:39 »
I guess the effect is always the same, when you start the tournament, so after that I just made replay with different brackets. Third place playoff played later in DIY with keeping eye to the scorers (adding goals if necessary). The results show that some update to squads must be made, especially for Japan, Germany and Poland. If you restart, everything is the same, so after trying to simulate WC again, I got the same outcome.
 
D Russia 2018
Argentina
England 0:0 Argentina, pk.4:5
Japan 0:2 Brazil
Shinji Kagawa [6]
I Russia 2018
Germany
Germany 1:0 Poland
Colombia 2:1 Spain
Timo Werner [5]
II Russia 2018
Germany
Poland 0:1 Germany
Argentina 0:1 Belgium
Robert Lewandowski [5]
III Russia 2018
Germany
Belgium 1:2 Germany
Portugal 1:0 Japan
Eden Hazard [6]
IV Russia 2018
Colombia
Colombia 2:1 Belgium
England 1:2 Spain
Harry Kane [7]
V Russia 2018
Portugal
Portugal 2:2 Switzerland, pk.8:7
Costa Rica 3:4 Japan
Haris Seferovic [6]



Loaded data string is probably responsible for that, so I tried random (seeded) group draw each time with an additional diy cup for third places and results are slightly better, but Poland is still far too strong:

 
PC
Amiga
I Russia R18
Brazil
Portugal 0:1 Brazil
Poland 1:2 England
Arkadiusz Milik [8]
I Russia R18
Brazil
Brazil 4:0 Spain
Germany 0:3 England
Mario Gomez [9]
II Russia R18
Spain
Argentina 1:2 Spain
Serbia 1:0 Poland
Ever Banega [6]
II Russia R18
Spain
Uruguay 3:4 Spain
Argentina 2:0 Belgium
Chicharito [6]
III Russia R18
Poland
Poland 1:0 Spain
Argentina 3:3 England, pk.5:3
Diego Costa [8]
III Russia R18
Brazil
Morocco 0:1 Brazil
England 1:1 Argentina, pk.7:8
Harry Kane [11]
IV Russia R18
Germany
Colombia 1:2 Germany
England 1:1 Spain, pk.3:5
Mario Gomez [8]
IV Russia R18
Belgium
Portugal 1:1 Belgum, pk.0:3
Germany 3:2 Poland
Mesut Ozil [8]
V Russia R18
Spain
Spain 1:0 Croatia
Brazil 0:1 Denmark
Gabriel Jesus [7]
V Russia R18
England
England 2:1 France
Poland 4:2 Russia
Harry Kane [9]
VI Russia R18
Spain
Colombia 1:2 Spain
England 0:0 Portugal, pk.5:3
Diego Costa [8]
VI Russia R18
England
Poland 1:3 England
Belgium 0:2 Brazil
Romelu Lukaku [9]
VII Russia R18
France
Germany 3:3 France, pk.3:5
Portugal 2:1 Brazil
Gonzalo Higuain [6]
VII Russia R18
Belgium
Poland 1:2 Belgium
Mexico 3:1 Senegal
Mario Gomez [9]
VIII Russia R18
England
Spain 0:0 England, pk.1:2
Poland 0:0 Brazil, pk.5:4
Harry Kane [6]
VIII Russia R18
Argentina
Argentina 1:0 Uruguay
Spain 0:1 France
Diego Costa [8]
IX Russia R18
Croatia
France 0:0 Croatia, pk.4:5
Argentina 2:2 Belgium, pk.4:5
Ever Banega [8]
IX Russia R18
Spain
Spain 2:1 Uruguay
Senegal 0:1 Switzerland
Edinson Cavani [6]
X Russia R18
Poland
Poland 1:1 Spain, pk.5:4
England 1:1 Portugal, pk.5:3
Harry Kane [7]
X Russia R18
England
France 0:2 England
Colombia 1:0 Germany
Harry Kane [8]
« Last Edit: 18 July 2018, 17:06:13 by Gosen »

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Re: WC 2018 diy file + editing tips
« Reply #13 on: 17 July 2018, 22:46:05 »
The true winners of WC Russia 2018! ;)