Re: Synchronated Updates

Mr. Synch do you have an solution for those who want to make their own update?

Terrible news for all Swos fans world wide.. A BIG thank you for everything, for keeping Swos alive for all this past years and I hope you will make some new update in future! I m so sad right now

That s a shame - but I can imagine it must have been very time consuming to do such amazing updates! Thanks for all your work - they really are fantastic updates - hope you do some more in the future.

sad news

I understand that it takes a lot of time to do these updates... hopefully there be updates to a few leagues from someone... like the english league.

Maybe there could be a kickstarter project or another donation option if money could help another update come to life.

Hi synchronated, I started editing your 13/14 update in the Whiteulver editor and I got a question. How do I edit the 12th player(the player who replaced the second goalkeeper). I can see the stats, but I can t seem to be able to edit them, and it acts like the first goalkeeper.
If I put the edited file back in your previous update, will the updated data work?

I will probably do an update for the english league and the reserve teams.

Hi to everyone!. I am able to work in 2014/15 update, i have time to do it, but i need some tutorial to know the proccess. I support the idea to make some updaters team and continues the amazing Synchro´s work.

Once the data is transferred from transfermarkt to excel, it would be great if the db could be put on google docs.
-Editable by all those collaborating on the project.
-Read only to everyone else.
That way we can all see the grand update evolving!

For info, below is some info provided to me by Synchronated back in 2011.
The techniques might have changed since then, i ll let Sync comment on that.

19 July 2011, by Synchronated:
The data will come from transfermarkt, the data going into a large spreadsheet and coming out the other side as SWOS files. The sheet has 10,000+ skin/hair colours, having been manually looked up, and contains Football Manager-based attributes for the individual player skills. A LOT of preparation has gone into the sheet and the update will be much quicker to produce and much more consistent and realistic than any previous ones.
I will release the individual leagues as I convert them so if people want to use/survey them before the full update comes out they can.

23 July 2011, by Synchronated:
Currently I can (pretty much) rip transfermarkt info straight to SWOS files. And that is pretty close to the same thing. An official database wouldn t contain the (necessary) subjective player evaluations, and also wouldn t contain the football manager attributes that are added on.

10 September 2011, by Synchronated:
The skill attributes themselves are calculated as each club is exported, from seven 00-99 values which are applied as best possible relative to result in the player s correct overall SWOS value.
Now, Excel 2010 + 4GB of RAM cannot do this non-trivial calculation for 1,000 players at once, let alone all 135,000, so even the main spreadsheet doesn t have the actual resulting SWOS attributes in it - just the source attribute data and player values, all of which can be tweaked because there is no calculation until export. It also contains lots of reserve players that never make it into the actual game.

That s some old, old info, ro32x!

It s best to experiment with the editor and whatever data sources you prefer, and do what you think is good.

The most important point for a newbie is that for the skills, 0=8=terrible, 3=11=average and 7=15=world class. There s probably no need to actually use anything above 7 as it s just the same scale (awful up to great) repeated again.

The other important point is that in SWOS and in the original data, market value corresponds to the total number of skill points (taking into account the 15=7 points business). But even that isn t so important, I was always trying to find a way to have the price independent of the skills and keep the game balanced. It s probably boring to follow this rule, honestly.

To edit the 12th player as someone asked, you can use Pablo Fridlender s editor. For some reason Whiteulver didn t enable it in his editor.

To update all the leagues took an absolutely industrial amount of time. It was madness, really. It may be possible for me again in the future - but not this year!