Retro update 1984/85

A crazy proposal for nostalgic ones.
All update-efforts are done with nowadays in mind.
But what about making an ultimate retro update, for instance for the season 1984-85 ?
Italian Serie A would be incredible: Juventus with Platini, Napoli with Maradona, Udinese with Zico, Inter with Rummenigge and so on.
Not to forget a young Van Basten at Ajax, and Gullit at Feyenoord!

The players back to 1984 could be retrieved for example from the following sources:

- www.historical-lineups.com/
- www.worldfootball.net/competition/eng-premier-league-1984-1985/
- calcio-seriea.net/risultati/1984/1722/
- www.bdfutbol.com/en/t/t1984-85.html

That said, some suggestions follow.

Since back to 1984 some Swos leagues did not exist (Croatia, Estonia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Ukraine, etc.), the following "changes" could be done (the exact meaning of #EMPTY is provided below):

- Belarus 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Croatia 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Latvia 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Lituania 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Slovenia 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Slovakia 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Ukraine 96/97 --> #EMPTY
- Russia 96/97 --> USSR 83/84
- Czech 96/97 --> Czechoslovakia 83/84
- Estonia 96/97 --> East Germany 83/84

Since it is not possible to remove slots allocated to leagues, #EMPTY league means the following:
- The name of the league is replaced with something like "######"; so in Career is easy to see that the league actually "does not exist"
- All the teams are replaced with a team named "X" with home/away kits all grey
- All the players are replaced with a player named "X" with all skils equal to 0
- All the coaches are replaced with a coach named "X"
- The league must not be considered for qualifications to the three european cups, the first year ( www.swoes.info/champions_league_info/ ) as well as all the following years in a Career (how it works: www.swoes.info/teams_qualifies/ )

So, basically "EMPTY" leagues will be played by anonymous "X" teams with awful anonymous "X" players without affecting any european cups. Everything would still work fine since the total number of "real" european leagues would be 43 - 7 = 36, more than enough to get the 32 teams needed for the Cup-Winners Cup

To quickly match team strengths back to 1983/84 before editing the players in details, the following swaps could be considered:

- Manchester Utd <--> Liverpool
- Aston Villa <--> Everton
- AC Milan <-> Roma
- Parma <-> Internazionale
- Lazio <-> Verona
- Bor.Dortmund <-> Hamburg
- Dep. la Coruna <-> Atletic Bilbao
- Paris SG <-> Bordeaux

I am ready to make my contribution.

hey DaniSwos,
interesting idea for retro files I have some ideas for pts general of a given team/league etc. The transfermarkt website will also help us choose players from better leagues do team setup we do not have to leave empty slots we break the USSR and Yugoslavia into today's leagues Croatia, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia etc. may stay we will create from Czechoslovakia leagues the Czech Republic and Slovakia we will make Germany as West Germany and San Marino as East Germany we will only change the number of teams in the file, e.g. Albania league only 8 teams, Croatia 8 teams, Lithuania 8 teams, Ukraine 8 teams etc. we will remove the remaining unnecessary teams then we will check with Playaveli if the game will not crash but the most important in my opinion are people it's a project for a few months I think we need 10-15 peoples we will do the retro channel on discord if the project start btw why exactly 84/85?
cheers

Update:

I found another really interesting site with all historical rosters:
Example with Real Madrid 1984/85:

www.national-football-teams.com/club/231...4_1/Real_Madrid.html

The site is particularly useful because it lists not only players, appearances and goals, but also in particular the precise positions (right midfielder, left back, and so on).
Parsing the html could be also a way to quickly obtain a database for the update !

Hi Gorzo, thanks for the reply!
Leaving all the exiting leagues is also a good idea, but I thought removing them and introducing USSR, Czechoslovakia and so on would have been more realistic!
Besides, replacing unexisting leagues with "empty" ones would require to search and add less teams and players.

I am not sure if removing teams is possible or so easy; it can break the national cups. For instance, as far as I know, italian national cup ("coppa italia") may search for some non-league teams; so if they are removed, italian cup would crash after the first season. Unfortunately I do not know exactly how to modify national cups (I found in the exe some code which could be the format, but no idea where is the code to *select* the teams for each cup).

Playaveli wrote: Maybe I can help you guys. For the "unimportant" leagues... we can just add fantasy teams, made up names like TRAIL RES players.
Hassling with removing teams etc... do not do that!

okay, I have a better idea, especially for teams from weaker leagues we choose from 6-10 teams, e.g. other teams to non-league, if we cannot be removed and the statistics are ready we will be based on prices from the season 96/97 or from the database 95/96 haha we'll just add real players from those year or we will come up with

Moving teams to "other leagues" does not help, since you have to consider also the national CUPS, which will anyhow pick up also those teams you moved to other leagues.
And as far as I know, reducing the number of cup rounds will make the game to crash after the first season.