Re: Updates 2015-16

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8 years 6 months ago #130057 by Betichus
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Spain updating 75%. Starting Ukraine, 15%. Updates based on Synchronated updates 2013/14.
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8 years 6 months ago #130060 by rw9018
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I thought people had already agreed to do all updates based on synchronated s 13/14 version...?

I think this would be better. It might get confusing to suddenly change it to 96/97.
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8 years 6 months ago #130081 by Marin Parushev
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My apologi

I thought people had already agreed to do all updates based on synchronated s 13/14 version...?

I think this would be better. It might get confusing to suddenly change it to 96/97.


My apologies, I guess I put all this confusion here. Let s make the update based on the Synchronated 13/14. Obviously most of the people are using it.
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8 years 6 months ago #130093 by OssiTR
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Turkey Leagues 2015/16 uptade
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8 years 6 months ago #130098 by Mozg
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Teamworking on updates is a great idea, but I think that some unifications should have been set before starting it. I mean to make this updates equalized to avoid situations where, for example, one updater will create 4M (euro from transfermarkt) worth player as 1M player in SWOS, while someone creating some other league is making 4M players as about 500K players. What do you think about it?
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8 years 6 months ago #130099 by Gorzo
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Teamworking on updates is a great idea, but I think that some unifications should have been set before starting it. I mean to make this updates equalized to avoid situations where, for example, one updater will create 4M (euro from transfermarkt) worth player as 1M player in SWOS, while someone creating some other league is making 4M players as about 500K players. What do you think about it?


In my updates the players value between 4,9-4M, I will always give 1,6M in editor :) it is a good idea to specify common criteria for prices.
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8 years 6 months ago #130105 by Marin Parushev
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There are some things those who make updates should consider:
  • If you search for the most expensive goalkeepers in transfermarkt.com (www.transfermarkt.com/spieler-statistik/...pieler/marktwertetop) you will see that 27 keepers worldwide cost at least 10M. If you search for the most expensive goalkeepers in original SWOS (swos.gazchap.com/) you will see that 29 keepers cost 1.8M or more (considering that most of the names on the list appear twice). That is why I think that giving 1.6M to a player whose real value is between 4 and 4.9M is not fair. I would give such a player 950K - 1M. Giving a higher or lower price is justified for me if it is for a special player you know. I will share my full list below
  • In the original SWOS every step in the SWOS price list increases 1 player skill by 1. If you have two players in SWOS - one with price 1M and one with price 1.1M the following formula is valid: [SUM OF SKILLS OF PLAYER 1] +1 = [SUM OF SKILLS OF PLAYER 2]. Have that in mind when setting player skills and prices.
  • I played a bit with SWOS editors and I feel comfortable with increasing/reducing team count in a league and since I am updating the national teams I suggest to increase the number of teams in Africa, North America, Oceania etc. In the end I can pack the update and the .exe file (after testing it in career mode of course). What do you think?

And here s my list:
transfermarkt - swos
up to 40К - 25K
50К - 30K
75К - 40K
85К - 50K
100-125К - 65K
150К - 75К
150-200К - 85K
200К - 100K
200-250К - 110K
250К - 130K
300К - 150K
350-450K - 160K
500-550K - 180K
600-650K - 200K
700-850K - 250K
900K-1M - 300K
1.05-1.25M - 350K
1.3-1.45M - 450K
1.5-1.6M - 500K
1.65-1.75M - 550K
1.8-1.9M - 600K
1.95-2.1M - 650K
2.1-2.4M - 700K
2.5-3M - 750K
3.2-3.4M - 800K
3.5-3.6M - 850K
3.75M - 950K
3.8-4.5M - 1M
4.75-5.25M - 1.1M
5.5-6M - 1.3M
6.5-7M - 1.5M
7.5M - 1.6M
8-8.5M - 1.8M
9-9.5M - 1.9M
10-11M - 2M
11.5-12.5M - 2.25M
13-14M - 2.75M
15-17.5M - 3M
18-21M - 3.5M
22-25M - 4.5M
26-30M - 5M
31-36M - 6M
37-42M - 7M
43-49M - 8M
50-59M - 9M
60-69M - 10M
70-85M - 12M
over 85М - 15M

PS: I am sure that in the end there will be discrepancies in the update and player prices will not be consistent but it s ok. We will do a better one next time ;)
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8 years 6 months ago #130115 by Gorzo
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You know we have the 2015 year level in football is balanced, also prices today are different than in the 90s, although I personally think that they are too high. I did a quick analysis of the three clubs. I took into account only the parameters 0-7. So Manchester Utd in the original version Sensible 96/97 has got 497 points in my criteria has 546 points in your 535, so as you can see the difference is minimal between our updates in terms of top clubs. The next club is Ried average team in Austria in SWOS 96/97 has 207 points, in my updates has 220 points at your is 179. Here it is the difference between our criteria of 41 points. Whether much or little I do not know :) Another club that QPR, who in 96/97 has 310 points, in my edition of 378 in your 313. Here longer a difference of 65 points. As you can see in my editions every club becomes stronger :) Best if we manually - make up the parameters, and the editor will generate a price. I did so with Rooney. Parameters I took with FIFA 15 and Wayne should cost 2.75 million. I think that some players would cost more than 8 million. It would have been nice if we together reached an agreement to do so was the best :)
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8 years 6 months ago #130116 by Playaveli
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Marin s list looks excellent!
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8 years 6 months ago #130118 by Marin Parushev
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Gorzo, I like your idea about taking the skills from FIFA and applying them in SWOS and then computing the prices. Unfortunately FIFA doesn t have that many teams, does it ;)
I would say that 2.75M is not a bad price for Wayne Rooney considering his shape and success in the past few years :)
It s ok for me to have different criteria.
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