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13 years 3 months ago #112992 by MIJB#19
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I know when finding parameters in the DIY file.

pitch\pos51 52 53 545140 5141
frozen00 00 00 0000 00
muddy00 00 01 0001 00
wet00 00 02 0002 00
soft00 00 03 0003 00
normal00 00 04 0004 00
dry00 00 05 0005 00
hard00 00 06 0006 00
seasonal01 00 FE FFFE FF
random00 00 FF FFFF FF

Question: why SWOS have two place with pitch type? Probably (I don t research more data) one place it physic (5140), two place it look pitch type (54).

Maybe the first one is to determine which images to use (brown pitch, green pitch, white pitch) and the other one to determine which characteristics (speed of ball, heigth of bounce, etc) to use?

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13 years 3 months ago #113018 by Mozg
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It s just an infromations which pitch was selected during creating DIY tournament. Information about physics and colors must be stored in sws.exe file (swos2 for Amiga).

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13 years 3 months ago #113030 by MIJB#19
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I mean that I suspect the image files aren t linked to the settings, so if you switch around just the pitch image files of the frozen and the muddy ones, that the game you will get a brown pitch with high bouncing balls. So, to make sure the right stuff shows up, the numbers are listed twice.

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13 years 3 months ago #113073 by electrospectre
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an interesting thread...

sorry if it s slightly digressional, but i thought i d mention this again:

through prolonged play using the swos pack, It s noticeable how each team inhabits a certain pitch as their home ground... take the english premiership as an example:

pitch 1: birmingham city, chelsea, man city, portsmouth, stoke city, wolverhampton.
pitch 2: arsenal, fulham, hull city, man utd, west ham utd.
pitch 3: burnley, everton, liverpool, tottenham.
pitch 4: aston villa.
pitch 5: blackburn, bolton, sunderland, wigan.
(pitch 6: training pitch)

i m wonderin whether these preset pitches might feature in certain strands and could be changed through hex editing...

presumably, this would enable us to select which pitch each team plays on. and with a little endeavour we can alter the pitches to host different standards of football for different continents. let s roughly imagine, for example (without indgulging in too much detail):

pitch 1: superstadia: international venues/top flight stadia belonging to elite european clubs. eg barca, arsenal.
pitch 2: modest standard: grounds that belong to other top flight clubs.
pitch 3: lower league standard: older, smaller, humble-looking grounds.
pitch 4: continental modest standard: perhaps with stands further away from ptich/different hoardings etc
pitch 5: continental lower league standard.

dunno, but anyway, you get the picture! i think it would really add something.

btw, twould also herald one other question... is it possible to add extra pitches to the current six? 8)

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13 years 3 months ago #113098 by Tomplus
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an interesting thread...

sorry if it s slightly digressional, but i thought i d mention this again:


Your post is very digressional. You talk about 5(6) pitches, but SWOS have 7 diffrents pitches.

Second, using pitches from team is unreal (we need the Open SWOS Project).

It s just an infromations which pitch was selected during creating DIY tournament. Information about physics and colors must be stored in sws.exe file (swos2 for Amiga).


Exactly, all information about pitches are the executive SWOS files. Maybe who know where is position about pitches?

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13 years 3 months ago #113102 by Mozg
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I think that Electrospectre didn t mean pitch type (frozen, muddy, etc.) but rather pitch pattern, and there are 5 types of patterns: horizontal, vertical and skew stripes, parallel and skew checkers and sixth - training pitch (in some pitch conditions (eg. wet) it s no difference and all the patterns look just like plain).

an interesting thread...

sorry if it s slightly digressional, but i thought i d mention this again:

through prolonged play using the swos pack, It s noticeable how each team inhabits a certain pitch as their home ground... take the english premiership as an example:

pitch 1: birmingham city, chelsea, man city, portsmouth, stoke city, wolverhampton.
pitch 2: arsenal, fulham, hull city, man utd, west ham utd.
pitch 3: burnley, everton, liverpool, tottenham.
pitch 4: aston villa.
pitch 5: blackburn, bolton, sunderland, wigan.
(pitch 6: training pitch)

i m wonderin whether these preset pitches might feature in certain strands and could be changed through hex editing...

presumably, this would enable us to select which pitch each team plays on. and with a little endeavour we can alter the pitches to host different standards of football for different continents. let s roughly imagine, for example (without indgulging in too much detail):

pitch 1: superstadia: international venues/top flight stadia belonging to elite european clubs. eg barca, arsenal.
pitch 2: modest standard: grounds that belong to other top flight clubs.
pitch 3: lower league standard: older, smaller, humble-looking grounds.
pitch 4: continental modest standard: perhaps with stands further away from ptich/different hoardings etc
pitch 5: continental lower league standard.

dunno, but anyway, you get the picture! i think it would really add something.

btw, twould also herald one other question... is it possible to add extra pitches to the current six? 8)


Your post really interested me so I tried to do the same observation for Polish league (original 96/97 squads), and I ve got the same results!

GKS Belchatow, GKS Katowice, Gornik, Hutnik, Lech, Legia, Siarka and Widzew - these teams always plays on the pitch with vertical stripes
LKS, Rakow, Stal, Stomil and Zaglebie - horizontal stripes
Amica, Olimpia and Slask - skew checkers
Pogon and Sokol - parallel checkers
no team plays on the skew stripes

It s really interesting if there will be possibility to connect pitch look to team - in fact there will be possibility to create different graphics for any and as you said make better stadiums for the top teams :)

But question is where the info about it are stored... If I ll have some time, I ll try to look at this.

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13 years 2 months ago #113128 by MIJB#19
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Maybe it s tied to the kit style? (horizontal stripes, vertical stripes, colored sleeves, plain shirt)

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13 years 2 months ago #113137 by Tomplus
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Kit style nothing mean how I see. This information about stripes must be somewhere other place.

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