Re: "SWOS United" or "The future of ss.de"

hi guys...sorry to intrude myself but i think that pay for tournament, cup, ... is a bad idea.
i mean that you can t expect how many peaple will pay, and there is a real risk that ss.de will lose many many peaple because non-paying peaple could create a parallel site and everybody will join it.
in my opinion this would be the beginning of the end.

always in my opinion you should do something like hattrick supporting :
- pricing table with predetermined prices (9€/6months , 12€/12months, 20€/2years...)
- only supports can view all site (for example: for every non-paying users you could hide cross table (in torurnaments), srn calculator, balances and some other non-essential tool
- webmail and little webspace (for example sox.ss.de or ss.de/sox)
- special prices for swos gadget (ok, i dont know if it s possibile but perhaps you may obtain discount for grups.....plz don t kill me, i m only writing some idea )
- etc...

i think that 1€/month is a really good price and many users will donate it...

I think some small bounty is not important but some peoples don t want give any money . that is a problem

I support that idea ElMichaj, main thing for me is that playing leagues or ooo s should always be free or a lot of players will leave for sure.

And Clans, hell yeah brig em on

My 2 cents: just provide exclusive content , such as being allowed to store your own custom tactic or a slot in the savedisk for your custom team and reserve that stuff for those who ve paid for the full membership.

Aren t there like 64 slots for custom teams? Charge 5 bucks for each one of those and 10 Euro for the custom tactics, make bi-monthly deals and just replace whoever hasn t paid the day the rent expires, that would generate a pretty steady flow of cash and you could prolly raise the fees whenever the demands increases (very likely occurrence) without pissing anyone off.

by the way, have you ever thought about offering fully customizable teams? That d be something a lot of players would find really appealing, trust me. You could set up a skill points cap, put in place a set of rules to prevent people from abusing the system and allow club members to create teams which would be customizeable in every aspect (as opposed to the roster names/uniform mods available at the moment): would you rather have a speedy wing because it d suit your strategy better and at the same time wouldn t mind giving up on a forward s tackling abilities? Fine, just dump those skill points onto the aforementioned wing s speed et voilà! You ve always dreamed about having two midfielders with 15 in both tackling and heading? Get into the club and you re set.

Gameplay variety and enough money to run the website would ensue, should people react positively to an initiative like this, it s something I d carefully evaluate if I was in your shoes (even though I m aware that you re pretty reluctant when it comes to database editing I believe it s still worth a shot).

I have already designed something like this for the italian website (where I used to manage the database editing, too bad people didn t seem to give a damn at the time, lol) and thoroughly thought out a rather complicated and cheater-proof (you know I hate them ) set of rules whose purpose was to prevent gameplay unbalancement whilst providing 360 degrees customization and honestly wouldn t mind translating them as long as it ends up being of help for the community.

Aren t there like 64 slots for custom teams? Charge 5 bucks for each one of those and 10 Euro for the custom tactics, make bi-monthly deals and just replace whoever hasn t paid the day the rent expires, that would generate a pretty steady flow of cash and you could prolly raise the fees whenever the demands increases (very likely occurrence) without pissing anyone off.

I think this particular segment will not be very popular

Maybe I m an idiot, but I had a little problem trying to make a donation by paypal. Donate button opens a page in German language (and I ve seen no possibilities to change it into English or Italian).

my suggestions are quite different from those you listed above.

In my opinion, the first step should be to turn definitively off the supporter status (it may give the idea of a premium / free users system) , that could appear quite expensive especially for new users, and set up the home page making Donate button more visible.

Creating a top donations list would also incentivate people to help community.

Paypal buttons should be not only in the home page but also into non-english sections of the forum, and in most of the pages.


These are the ideas that came into my 4-bit brain, but I really think that they could be useful.

Believe or not, I dont have a paypal account yet
My opinion: money (1euro for month, its one beer, isnt it?) is no problem at all for people who own computers and pay to providers every month. Twelve euros for twelve months, its negligible ammount. There could be problems with people who
1) dont wanna pay anything to anyone because its their attitude (everything is free on net today, why should I pay?)
2) dont have paypal account (and dont wanna found it) or are lazy to put money in envelope and send it (if this easy way would be possible )
3) start playing swos online and find they are too weak (like almost every newbie, I guess), these people consider if to play or not in the future because they are pretty angry when they are losing all the time and now they should pay money for being butchered?

About paypal and payment methods - I am sure there will always be some ways how to pay. Seven or eight years ago I ordered some stuff from USA, I put money in the envelope (after an agreement) and sent to USA, with no insurance

If this site and all about SWOS is noncommercial and people behind it do all that stuff in their freetime and they have some income from banners or t-shirts and so on then these chickenfeeds should be platitude (and I am not in situation I can waste money - for those who classify people on rich and the rest).

1 euro per month shouldnt be a problem.. Lost to much money poker, stopping gamble and support ss.de is a better idea