Better connection wins the game!

The hack stuff is already 100% answered. It is NOT possible to cheat an online game with kaillera, because of desynch. If versions differ, the game looses synchronisation. (And Mr. Coolio scored his recorded goals in online matches).
That is FACT. And doesn t need an argument like we know cause we do . It s cold coffee, let s don t warm it up. It will taste horrible.

Please post some links with info on GGPO and 2DF. Thank you.

@Playa: Fact? CiPiX (.de and sensibleita.com member, awesome player and great friend of mine) and I have played 2 full and consecutive (friendly) matches with slightly different hdf s (I had purposely dwindled down the skills of my custom team via editor, I just wanted to know what would ve happened) before eventually desynch ing, I couldn t tell whether my team got an actual disadvantage or not however if we managed to do such without even trying by just swapping a save-file (we re both like...computer-illiterates) I m pretty positive that SWOS could be hacked by someone who knows what he s doing.

Designing macroed controls for whatever action you may be out to exploit would be, in fact, even easier.

The odds of some sort of cheating routine being out there already are pretty slim due to the rather small playerbase, however ruling out the contingency completely would be definately naive (have you ever played any other online game? I ve yet to come across a cheat-free title and I used to review them for magazines, websites and the likes, so figures).

Again Playa you re backing up your arguments with nearly baseless assumptions (and haven t addressed my points either, red-herring syndrome anyone?), I repeat, neither of us does know it all and unless you re some sort of nutty hacker/programmer/net-guru I think you should be a little less abrupt and a little more open-minded, especially regarding stuff you clearly barely grasp.

Playa you re a pretty cool guy, always nice to talk with, however being an excellent SWOS player doesn t make you right by default, even on these boards.


@LIK: being unable to do something shouldn t make you comfortable with shutting off completely your curiosity and critical spirit, making you as uninquisitive, naive and mind-numbed as it gets, either.

Enough with the hacking debate though, I ll challenge Coolio at DAYS 09 to see what he s all about with my own eyes anyway (that s one of the reasons why I m coming! - we ve even already agreed on an unscheduled friendlies session!)

back on topic!

Please post some links with info on GGPO and 2DF. Thank you.

I ll try to get in touch with the guys who ve coded them (I got an american friend who s really into 2D fighting Pro gaming, he ll point me in the right direction) and then, if possible, I ll make you talk with them directly (since you re the official representative of the european SWOS movement ), perhaps you ll be able to convince them to feature SWOS as well.

I m pretty positive that SWOS could be hacked by someone who knows what he s doing.

Yes, ok, just please dont reveal this to my parents, will be hard to explain then how come im strugling with my programming class at university.

that sentence wasn t referred to anyone in particular, actually, was just talking in general.

We are going off topic... let s talk about lag/ping problems, not about suspected cheats etc.


In my opinion, you can t take something for granted. Retrieving thinks that GGPO could be a better way to play online, someone could have some doubts. But before trying, no one can say for sure that he s wrong.

Anyway, I think that a lag-free game wouldn t solve delay problems. They depend on ping, and ping is related to distance and connection, not to the client you use to play online. This is an opinion, not an absolute truth...

The winuae/kaillera software is a mess, i hate it. Hopefully we get something better in the future.

Dude I m working in a Telco.... making a phone call goes a whole different route than data does. The necessity of the internet being the structure it is makes a comparision pretty awkward.

Data still has delay, but it is a different story.

It has nothing to do with cables, but with fixed routes and hardware devices realizing the route. Getting the signal into a voice network in a different country is not as easy as it sounds. And there are much less peering points for voice signals.